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  Bethel moving from Brooklyn.

  by strawberry cake in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  an old pioneer friend told me recently that the bethel is moving from brooklyn.

  she learned this at pioneer school from the cos who taught the school.

  also they warned of many changes to come.

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  I think thery will have to keep some office in Brooklyn, as that was where the Watchtower Society of New York was incorporated, just as they have an office in Pittsburgh to continue the Watchtower Society of PA
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  The 20 fundamental teachings

  by Fatfreek in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a close friend studies with one of the jw's.

  during one of their recent studies, my friend raised the topic of wt contradictions (flip-flops) using the classic resurrection (or not) of the ancient ones from sodom and gomorrah.

  one can show where there are 7 flip-flops on this doctrine.

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  WHAT JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES BELIEVE

  Belief	Scriptural Reason
  Bible is God's Word and is truth	2 Tim. 3:16, 17 ; 2 Pet. 1:20, 21 ; John 17:17
  Bible is more reliable than tradition	Matt. 15:3 ; Col. 2:8
  God's name is Jehovah	Ps. 83:18 ; Isa. 26:4 ; 42:8 , AS; Ex. 6:3
  Christ is God's Son and is inferior to Him	Matt. 3:17 ; John 8:42 ; 14:28 ; 20:17 ; 1 Cor. 11:3 ; 15:28
  Christ was first of God's creations	Col. 1:15 ; Rev. 3:14
  Christ died on a stake, not a cross	Gal. 3:13 ; Acts 5:30
  Christ's human life was paid as a ransom for obedient humans	Matt. 20:28 ; 1 Tim. 2:5, 6 ; 1 Pet. 2:24
  Christ's one sacrifice was sufficient	Rom. 6:10 ; Heb. 9:25-28
  Christ was raised from the dead as an immortal spirit person	1 Pet. 3:18 ; Rom. 6:9 ; Rev. 1:17, 18
  Christ's presence is in spirit	John 14:19 ; Matt. 24:3 ; 2 Cor. 5:16 ; Ps. 110:1, 2
  We are now in the 'time of the end'	Matt. 24:3-14 ; 2 Tim. 3:1-5 ; Luke 17:26-30
  Kingdom under Christ will rule earth in righteousness and peace	Isa. 9:6, 7 ; 11:1-5 ; Dan. 7:13, 14 ; Matt. 6:10
  Kingdom will bring ideal living conditions to earth	Ps. 72:1-4 ; Rev. 7:9, 10 , 13-17 ; 21:3, 4
  Earth will never be destroyed or depopulated	Eccl. 1:4 ; Isa. 45:18 ; Ps. 78:69
  God will eliminate present system of things in the battle at Har-Magedon	Rev. 16:14 , 16 ; Zeph. 3:8 ; Dan. 2:44 ; Isa. 34:2 ; 55:10, 11
  Wicked will be eternally destroyed	Matt. 25:41-46 ; 2 Thess. 1:6-9
  People God approves will receive everlasting life	John 3:16 ; 10:27, 28 ; 17:3 ; Mark 10:29, 30
  There is only one road to life	Matt. 7:13, 14 ; Eph. 4:4, 5
  Human death is due to Adam's sin	Rom. 5:12 ; 6:23
  The human soul ceases to exist at death	Ezek. 18:4 ; Eccl. 9:10 ; Ps. 6:5 ; 146:4 ; John 11:11-14
  Hell is mankind's common grave	Job 14:13 , Dy; Rev. 20:13, 14 , AV (margin)
  Hope for dead is resurrection	1 Cor. 15:20-22 ; John 5:28, 29 ; 11:25, 26
  Adamic death will cease	1 Cor. 15:26 , 54 ; Rev. 21:4 ; Isa. 25:8
  Only a little flock of 144,000 go to heaven and rule with Christ	Luke 12:32 ; Rev. 14:1 , 3 ; 1 Cor. 15:40-53 ; Rev. 5:9, 10
  The 144,000 are born again as spiritual sons of God	1 Pet. 1:23 ; John 3:3 ; Rev. 7:3, 4
  New covenant is made with spiritual Israel	Jer. 31:31 ; Heb. 8:10-13
  Christ's congregation is built upon himself	Eph. 2:20 ; Isa. 28:16 ; Matt. 21:42
  Prayers are to be directed only to Jehovah through Christ	John 14:6 , 13, 14 ; 1 Tim. 2:5
  Images should not be used in worship	Ex. 20:4, 5 ; Lev. 26:1 ; 1 Cor. 10:14 ; Ps. 115:4-8
  Spiritism must be shunned	Deut. 18:10-12 ; Gal. 5:19-21 ; Lev. 19:31
  Satan is invisible ruler of world	1 John 5:19 ; 2 Cor. 4:4 ; John 12:31
  A Christian ought to have no part in interfaith movements	2 Cor. 6:14-17 ; 11:13-15 ; Gal. 5:9 ; Deut. 7:1-5
  A Christian should keep separate from world	Jas. 4:4 ; 1 John 2:15 ; John 15:19 ; 17:16
  Obey human laws that do not conflict with God's laws	Matt. 22:20, 21 ; 1 Pet. 2:12 ; 4:15
  Taking blood into body through mouth or veins violates God's laws	Gen. 9:3, 4 ; Lev. 17:14 ; Acts 15:28, 29
  Bible's laws on morals must be obeyed	1 Cor. 6:9, 10 ; Heb. 13:4 ; 1 Tim. 3:2 ; Prov. 5:1-23
  Sabbath observance was given only to Israel and ended with Mosaic Law	Deut. 5:15 ; Ex. 31:13 ; Rom. 10:4 ; Gal. 4:9, 10 ; Col. 2:16, 17
  A clergy class and special titles are improper	Matt. 23:8-12 ; 20:25-27 ; Job 32:21, 22
  Man did not evolve but was created	Isa. 45:12 ; Gen. 1:27 ; Matt. 19:4
  Christ set example that must be followed in serving God	1 Pet. 2:21 ; Heb. 10:7 ; John 4:34 ; 6:38
  Baptism by complete immersion symbolizes dedication	Mark 1:9, 10 ; John 3:23 ; Acts 19:4, 5
  Christians gladly give public testimony to Scriptural truth	Rom. 10:10 ; Heb. 13:15 ; Isa. 43:10-12
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  The Big Announcement!!!

  by oneairhead in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i heard the big announcement was about restructuring the meetings.

  when i told my source he wanted to know how i found out about it and proceeded to tell him it was all online.

  i told him about other things that only elders would know about that are online.. one.

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  Entertaining? LIke a live band? elders dressed like clowns?

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  What was the first album you ever bought? And what form did it come in?

  by JimmyPage in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  mine was men at work's "business as usual".

  on vinyl.

  and my dad read all the lyrics on the sleeve to make sure it wasn't too evil.

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  Steppenwolf's first album was my first, that my dad bought for me at the E.J. Korvettes department store.

  However, the first album I bought with my own money was KISS' Dress to Kill

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  JW Secret Police

  by outofthebox in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i heard about a special group inside the organization.

  its sole purpose is to find and judicialy process disidents (or apostates as they called them).

  have you heard of such secret police before?

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  Oh we had a couple of those in my last congregation. we called them BROWN NOSERS.

  
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  DID ANY OF YOU actually bring anybody into "the truth" from scratch?

  by journey-on in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in all my years of jwing, i never actually brought anyone up to the stage of baptism.. i had bible studies occasionally, but they usually fizzled out after a while.

  i can't think.

  of more than a small handful of witnesses that ever actually got a study from door-to-door.

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  Yep, I WHOLE family of six, and when we left they left with us. They eventually became Adventist!

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  1924-Very, very rare-"Comforted Of God"--PDF!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  1924-very, very rare!-"comforted of god"--pdf!

  bm=bookmarked s=searchable r=reduced from 18-mb to 9.8-mb ref.=referenced (second reference copy included) written by frederick lardent (supplement to "the call of the bride") date from handwritten notes from original owner shows 1924.

  ************************************************************* i cannot even imagine what this "very rare" booklet would sell for on ebay!

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  It wasn't published by the WT Society, but it reflects those Bible Students who were in association with Rutherford, as it has the song "Millions Now Living Will Never Die," which is termed a "Golden Age Song." Most of the defections from Rutherford's group to the other Bible Student groups came a short time later.

  So what came first the song of the booklet?

  Benjamin Barton gave a discourse by the name "The Harp of God", long before the Judge published his book.

  "Comforted of God" was published by Frederick Lardent, he left shortly after Russell died.
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  How do you fell when you look back at your time as a JW ??

  by karter in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  to me not all bad taught me some good life skills howerever 38 years i could have done alot with that time...............karter

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  I have no animosity. I figured the Lord got me where I am today via a detour through the Society.

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  What is up with the obesity doctrine?

  by kzjw in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm a ubm, and the wife went to the assembly.

  she didn't discuss the obesity issue with me, but my mother-in-law is obese.

  so i'm just wondering how that would make her feel?

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  Listen, it's quite simple .... the highway to holiness can only hold so much, so witnesses need to trim down so that it can hold them. sjeesh, do I have to explain everything?
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  Just read Revelations...

  by kzjw in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  again...i see the 144,000...but they are on mount zion, not in heaven!

  where did the wtbs get their info?

  inn that sxxxy nwt?

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  If I remember correctly, the filthy slave class has determined Mount Zion to be located in heaven.....

  I thought Mount Zion was in Brooklyn? RR