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  The song 'American Pie' is linked to the Bible!!

  by Abaddon in

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  i had to post this; http://www.roytaylorministries.com/.

  beware!

  nasty midi on page.... ... so here's a c&p.

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  RunningMan

  This guy is way off base. Here is his error:

  Since "Yahweh" is God's true name, then the organization referred to is obviously god's "true" religion. What religion today publicizes God's name above all others and refers to itself as the "truth"? - obviously, this prophetic song does not refer to either the United States or Buddy Holly. It refers to none other than the anointed remnant who are embodied in the faithful and discreet slave class of Jehovah's Christian Witnesses!

  This song is refering to the imprisonment of the governing body in the early part of the 20th century, when they were spiritually dead (note the lyrics "this'll be the day that I die").

  The reference to the levee being dry is obviously referring the the drying up of the waters under the great harlot.

  The phrase "bye bye, miss american pie" refers to the expansion of the preaching work in lands outside of the US. Although the organization began in the US, it is now seeing more expansion in third world countries. It also has a secondary, antitypical fulfilment in the expansion of the missionary work, as missionaries left their native land to travel the globe.

  The "good old boys" are the governing body, and the "whiskey and rye" refers to the booze running for brother Rutherford during prohibition.

  And the singing, or course, refers to the new song book released in 1985(?), which brought heaps of honor on Jehovah's name, while shaming the nations by its righteous melodiousness.

  Next week, I will show how the lyrics of "Shake Your Booty" are actually a prophetic symbolism of the imprisonment of the governing body.
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  Think of the Witness TV could give

  by VitoJW in

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  television is the undisputed king of information.

  hundreds of channels, hundreds of topics..... 24 hours a day 365 days a year.. yet instead of taking the "truth" to the masses over the worldwide tv airwaves, jw's ignore the mass media, prefering instead the door to door approach of the first century ce.

  i have my ideas..... what are yours?

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  RunningMan

  Here is one of the ads: http://www.jw-media.org/edu_videos/psa_02lo.htm

  However, unless they are willing to pay for TV time, not much is going to happen with it. By the way, the one about hard times is really a downer - they're not going to get much response with that one.
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  armageddon

  by Realist in

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  quick question: .

  they say 1914 is the date when the end begins or something like that?

  they also say that within the lifetime of that generation armageddon will come.

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  RunningMan

  Well, Realist, I think you need an update in both JW and apostate doctrine. The JW's abandoned the generation doctrine in 1995(?). At one time the Society said that the generation that sees armageddon must have been at least 15 years old in 1914. Then as time passed, they lowered it to 10, then eventually, they got around to newborns. There has never been an upper limit on it, but whatever number you use, the generation idea has been blown away.

  I'm not sure where the 125 years comes from.
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  How much $ did you give for CD's, books etc?

  by expatbrit in

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  now i know money is a touchy subject, so if you feel discomforted by these questions, don't answer!.

  remember those articles that basically said "some have asked an appropriate amount to contribute for items such as the cd, bound volumes etc.

  this crap usually sells for $x in the shops."?.

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  RunningMan

  I would write a cheque once a year (to get the tax deduction) for $150. That would supposedly cover my order of 312 mags, volumes, yearbook, etc. It seems to me that the last price on the mags was $0.35 CDN before the donation arrangement came in. So, I guess they did OK by me. However, I would always give my donation to the local congregation, rather than to the society.

  For the past three years, I have accepted the same quantity of rags from them, without contributing anything. I believe this is a truer indication of fair value.

  Having been an accounts servant for a couple of years, and auditing the books for a few more, the society is only getting about $60 per month from our entire congregation. That is for a mag order of around 800 per month, plus books, etc.
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  Insecurity and Fear

  by RunningMan in

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  i heard a sermon by a tv evangelist yesterday (a fellow by the name of hagee).

  i normally don't watch this stuff, but it was specifically pointed out to me.. he was talking about marraige, and he made a point that has stuck with me.

  he said that if a person is not willing to tollerate any disagreement with their ideas, then that person is likely motivated by insecurity and fear.

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  RunningMan

  Yeah, he was hillarious yesterday. His sermon was also far better researched and presented than anything I have heard at a meeting or assembly.
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  Whats your opinion on the best way to step down??

  by Leander in

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  i know a lot of you here were former pioneers, servants and elders.

  how did you go about stepping down?

  did you just not say anything, did you write a letter or call one of the elders?.

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  RunningMan

  I stepped down as a Ministerial Servant about three years ago. My advice is to keep it positive.

  I told the elders that, due to changes in my personal life (new job), I could no longer devote the amount of time to my MS responsibilities that the job deserved, while still looking after my family's spiritual needs.

  This excuse presses all the right buttons:
  1. You are stepping down because of your huge respect for the position and its requirements;
  2. You gain their sympathy because you are admitting that you recognize your inadequacy in the face of these awesome god-given responsibilities;
  3. You play the family card, which carries a certain sacredness with it; and
  4. You give the elders an implied compliment that you recognize how hard working and great they are, because they are able to live up to these expectations.

  Good luck and welcome to the free world.
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  Insecurity and Fear

  by RunningMan in

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  i heard a sermon by a tv evangelist yesterday (a fellow by the name of hagee).

  i normally don't watch this stuff, but it was specifically pointed out to me.. he was talking about marraige, and he made a point that has stuck with me.

  he said that if a person is not willing to tollerate any disagreement with their ideas, then that person is likely motivated by insecurity and fear.

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  RunningMan

  I heard a sermon by a TV evangelist yesterday (a fellow by the name of Hagee). I normally don't watch this stuff, but it was specifically pointed out to me.

  He was talking about marraige, and he made a point that has stuck with me. He said that if a person is not willing to tollerate any disagreement with their ideas, then that person is likely motivated by insecurity and fear. People who are confident and unafraid have no problem hearing dissenting views. So, if you can't tollerate disagreement, look inside yourself. The problem is not with the dissenter, it's with you.

  Now, I'm not a big evangelism fan, but that point fits JW's perfectly. No sort of dissention or discussion is allowed. In fact, even open exploration of ideas is prohibited. The reason - their beliefs are so shakey that they are afraid to explore them. They are fearful and insecure.
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  The JWs are the best people myth

  by Leander in

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  i'm sure most of you are all aware of the myth that the wts perpetrates.

  they boldly make the claim that jehovah's witnesses are the most loving, compassionate and kind people on the face of the earth.

  thats a really interesting statement considering some of the things that i have seen.

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  RunningMan

  But, if a JW is practicing sin (either openly or hidden), then he is not a "real" Jehovah's Witness. So, among "real" JW's there is no such thing as sin, because as soon as one commits a sin, they are no longer a JW.

  It's just a little word game they play to justify their stupid ideas.

  Here's another word game: If a person in the organization practices sin for a long time (perhaps decades), while being apparently blessed and receiving priviledges, and then their sin gets uncovered, it is because "no matters are hidden from Jehovah", and he "uncovers all sin in his own due time". So, the organization appears to be either totally clean all the time, or in the process of cleaning itself. On the other hand, if he is never found out, well, no one knows so the organization appears clean, anyway.

  Besides, they kick out sinners. This means that they appear to be sinless - not because they are any better than the rest of society, just because they don't count any sinners as members.
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  Shepherd #4 - From Arm-pit to Shinning Star

  by Amazing in

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  shepherding to improve publisher performance .

  we had a high df/da rate, low pub hour average, almost no pioneers, few aux.

  pioneers and aux.

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  You know, I have wondered if the time collecters really know that people just make up numbers when they are called. You would think that they have enough intelligence to figure it out. Yet, they sound so gratified when you pause to pretend that you are thinking and adding up your time, then respond with whatever number comes to mind. I really don't believe that they care whether the time is real or not.
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  HEY, anyone from Canada?

  by Parsnips in

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  hi, i'm a new member and i am trying to find people that i might know, or have something in common with.

  if you are from canada, tell me from where....it would be funny to find someone i know or who has been to the same assemblies as me.

  by the way, im disfellowshipped, in case anyone was wondering.

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  RunningMan

  I didn't get around to checking in on the last thread, so here I am - in Regina.