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  Pioneer Hours Update

  by Bartolomeo in

  1. watchtower
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  regular pioneers: 600 per year, 50 on average per month.auxiliary pioneers: 30 hours per monthauxiliary pioneers in march and april: fee reduced to 15 hours.

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  JWTom

  When everyone is special.....no one is special!
  
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  Front row seats watching the collapse of watchtower

  by Indoubtbigtime in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m a pimo ministerial servant and i won’t fade because i want to keep my front row seats watching what happens next few years.. my predictions are that this current governing body will slowly die off and the current younger helpers will be the next gb.

  they will eventually have new light that they were wrong about 1914 and the overlapping generations.. the new light will be something on the lines of the last days are now because of king of north king of south pushing each other etc etc.

  they will do their very best to burry old literature and try to change the past trying to make it sound like they were right all along just as they have done for 150 years now.

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  I haven't been on here in quite some time as I am mostly hanging out over at Reddit EXJW these days. But I still catch up on the threads here to see what the topics are.....

  InDoubtBigTime: My advice to you is to consider stepping down as an MS. Myself or others here or on Reddit EXJW will help you with this. Staying in just to have the inside track or relationships is really cutting your life short based on what it could be. The most impactful thing any JW male can do it so step down from being an MS or Elder. Secondly, stop volunteering all of your time to provide free labor for Watchtower.

  Related to what may happen in the next 5-10 years.....this is one of my favorite topics and I believe there is at least some evidence to predict a few things that we are already seeing.....

  1. There is an overall decline in the number of JWs that are active. This is from many different demographics. The Borg is slowly shrinking.

  2. There are not enough MS/Elders to run the show in many congregations. Thus, Elders are doing mics, stage, A/V or (gasp!) sisters are taking on roles that were always done by males.

  3. The foundational JW membership is aging and dying off at an increasingly rapid pace. In 10 years or less many of the bedrock members of JW Land will be dead.

  4. There is not going to be a replacement of the older JWs that die off 1 for 1. The replacement rate is going to be something like for every 3 older JWs that die off...there will be 1 younger person that decides to stay a JW. Or for every 4 older JWs that die off there will be 1 younger JW that stays.
  

  5. Based on points 1-4, the only for JW Land to operate as it does today is to keep shrinking. Merge congregations, sell Kingdom Halls, reduce the number of COs, merge or eliminate branch facilities globally, etc. Honestly, for point 5 there is a great deal of evidence that this has been happening for about 20+ years. I was a bethelite when they started cutting older JWs and sending them home with nothing.

  Based on the points 1-5 above I feel there is quite a bit of evidence to show that Watchtower / Jehovah's Witnesses will continue to shrink as an corporation/cult. Getting smaller and more extreme each time they have to downsize a bit more just to keep the scam going. To me, there is quite a bit of evidence that this is already happening.

  The unknown is how fast it will happen. Will the Borg shrink in a massive way in just a few short years like 3-5 years? Or will it take 10-20 for all of this to play out? No one can say for sure. One certainty is that in 10 years a significant % of existing JWs will no longer be alive.
  
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  An army of volunteers and a convoy of trucks and heavy equipment headed to Florida as we speak!

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  no not the watchtower, but franklin graham's samaritan purse!

  nothing on the website as of noon friday edt.

  evidently all the resources are tied up making their next movie.

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  I am actually kind of surprised there has not been some Breaking News posts and request for donations at this point.

  I live in the midwest U.S. with about 3 million people. There is an increasing number of areas of our large city that are JW free. Meaning there are no JWs that live there, no congregations, etc. The congregations that have the territory for these areas are not able to even work the territories once per year.

  Can't say for sure about the area of Florida that was impacted....but it may be that there are few JWs and few congregations that were directly impacted in a large way.
  
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  Another congregation closed

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  15 years ago there were 5 congregations now there is only one and it is still struggling.

  congregations closing their doors doesn’t mean business is good.

  it looks like this last one to fold had no young witnesses, they either left the religion or moved.

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  Hoser: My area of the midwest US has seen at least 5 kindbum HElls sold during the last 10-20 years. Just curious if you are in the U.S and what area if you don't mind saying?

  Congregations are on the decline no matter how you look at it.
  
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  Prediction of how Watchtower going to be in 5 Years.

  by Foolednomore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i can see it that watchtower will become an online/tv based group with just con-vention hall$.. field service would be letter writing and phone preaching, door to door is done.. watchtower will have pay to view programs and still ask for donations after all that.. zoom meetings are here to stay.

  kingdumb halls will be sold off except for con-vention venues, or need for new ones$.. df'ing will continue.

  the craziness will continue.

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  I have not posted here for awhile. Depending on how fast the USS JW Land ship is sinking.....I think anything is possible. As the GBoobies and the Bethel Borg get more and more desperate.....I think almost anything is possible.

  They are already getting pretty desperate in my opinion.
  
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  2021 Annual Meeting Talk, "I Will Never Abandon You"

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this 19 minute talk by “governing body” member samuel herd lacks enthusiasm, energy and mostly reads his script.

  looks like he was forced to talk about something he no longer believes, but goes along what was written to appease the rest of the ''governing body.''.

  mr. herd says, ''sometimes we have to make adjustments.

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  I find that many older JDubs get to the point where they are tired of the JW Land Rat Race and start to get lazy about everything related to their role in the Borg. I comment regularly on Reddit that pure laziness can explain many of the ridiculous things that have taken place in JW Land since around 1995.
  
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  When it comes to "we must be ready to obey whether....it

  by nowwhat? in

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  2. beliefs

  i believe the the organization will tell it's members to sign over their mortgages and savings to the organization.

  because of the impending fall of the financial institutions and the organization is the only place where it will be safe.

  this has to be the only scenario possible because obviously they won't do a jonestown and where could 8 million flee to?

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  Hybridous - I think you are one the right track.
  
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  When it comes to "we must be ready to obey whether....it

  by nowwhat? in

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  i believe the the organization will tell it's members to sign over their mortgages and savings to the organization.

  because of the impending fall of the financial institutions and the organization is the only place where it will be safe.

  this has to be the only scenario possible because obviously they won't do a jonestown and where could 8 million flee to?

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  JWTom

  I think the direction is going to be a list like this:

  • Sell all Kingdum Halls.
  • Sell all Assembly Halls.
  • Go completely online with subscription fee to access JW Land content.
  • Once a year convention.
  • End of door to door ministry.

  These things by themselves will cause a heart attack for many PIMIs.

  Other suggestions like sign over all your money, group poisoning, etc.....is too over the top extreme and would backfire in a huge way with many PIMIs.
  
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  Body of Elders Leadership

  by bola in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  who has more power in the body of elders in watchtower.

  is it the cboe, secretary, service overseer or who?

  i am just wondering since in my congo there seems to be cowards among them..

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  In my experience the COBE and Secretary run the show in most congregations. While they are all supposed to be equal the reality is that the COBE and Secretary have to be willing to do a great deal of work and thus get enhanced influence and respect as a result.
  
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  Return to Kingdom Hall Meetings - Letter to Elder Bodies?

  by JWTom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a couple of threads over on reddit that there is a letter to elders on restarting meetings.

  i find this hard to believe and have not seen anything on this from our trusty sources on this site.

  can anyone confirm?.

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  JWTom

  A couple of threads over on Reddit that there is a letter to elders on restarting meetings. I find this hard to believe and have not seen anything on this from our trusty sources on this site. Can anyone confirm?
  

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/q70gms/return_to_inperson/