most jws do not think.
they feel.
they are told a certain thing and they simply accept it or just don't care all that much what the real facts are.
I find that thinking provokes feelings. So I wouldn’t say that most jws don’t think but only feel. Since I started thinking I also started to feel more, and those feelings cause action. I agree with rip van winkle that witnesses are
told what to feel and how to feel, their compliance of shunning and accepting every untruth is from turning OFF their feelings.
i guess no matter what country you live in, the costs of food and everything are going up.
it's certainly no different where mrs cedars and i live, and we're noticing a huge increase on our monthly spending for basic commodities - especially food and drink.. normally when we go shopping i tend to stock up on drinks - mostly beer, wine, and fizzy drinks like coke, fanta or sprite.
i tend to be quite picky with my fizzy drinks, and i can't really tolerate cheap "store brand" imitations.
Thank you Zid! You are a great lady and a S he-Devil to boot!
i guess no matter what country you live in, the costs of food and everything are going up.
it's certainly no different where mrs cedars and i live, and we're noticing a huge increase on our monthly spending for basic commodities - especially food and drink.. normally when we go shopping i tend to stock up on drinks - mostly beer, wine, and fizzy drinks like coke, fanta or sprite.
i tend to be quite picky with my fizzy drinks, and i can't really tolerate cheap "store brand" imitations.
My favourite drink is good old still water anyway, coffee and unsweatened herbal teas are my comfort drinks, which are allowed in this diet. Apart from missing a glass of wine with my dinner I must say that this diet is great.
my inspiration comes from the ingredients i have at hand, very often leftovers, and also home grown produce, herbs and spices.
i still have a lot to learn, but i have come a long way since i first started cooking for mr cedars.. i think the first recipe on this thread should by the one that oodad has posted on other thread.... .
shrimp scampi.
Great idea mamochan13. I love courgettes any way, even raw in salad. I will definitely try this one!
JWdaughter , sounds like you are living in a very interesting part of the world. Some of the food combinations are very unusual. I do love aubergine dip. I agree with you it should be more popular. Can you obtain a recipe for authentic Egyptian flatbread?
i just thought you should know that mrs cedars has finally taken the plunge and joined the forum.
she was able to log on for the first time yesterday.. though we both "awakened" at different stages, mrs cedars was very supportive and non-judgmental when i first began exploring my beliefs from a critical standpoint.
she is currently in the process of reading crisis of conscience and aquainting herself with some of the facts of witness history that were hitherto unknown.
Hello jookbeard.
“how have you adapted as a women leaving the WTS, leaving behind friends and family etc, has it been a difficult time or did you make the transition with relative ease?”
I am sorry to hear about your wife. I am sure you did everything you could for her.
I still find it difficult at times. My entire family is in, and whenever we communicate they will try to in a way “witness” to me. I get scriptures thrown at me and when I try to reason with them they get emotional, because to them the Organisation = Jehovah, so it is not easy.
My friends have been good in a way, they don't contact me so I don't have to explain myself to them, and if I do bump into them they are polite (you know how it goes). I have one friend that is also out so that makes things easier. What helped me to get out and deal with all the difficulties connected with it is the fact that the "truth" wasn't real.
My life wasn't real. My friendships, everything wasn't real because it was based on something that looks beautiful in theory and from far away, but when you allow yourself to think about it and when you need to put it into practice you realise it is very faulty, and it is no different from other cults. I realised how human the WTS and individual congregations are, and that pleasing people was preventing me from being myself and from looking after my own wellbeing.
“how would you recommend leaving the Borg to other couples facing a similar scenario?”
I don't know whether I am the right person to give anyone advice. I was always respectful towards the opinions and choices of others. Another thing is, we are all different and we all react to things differently. Also, it depends on how indoctrinated a person is. For that reason, I still can’t talk about everything I know to my Mum. To the spouse still in I would say, be open-minded and non-judgemental. But if you have any doubts, it is for a reason. Don’t be scared to do your own research. If it’s the true religion it should stand up under test.
And to the spouse that decides to leave I would say to be very patient and show lots of love for the one that is still in. Don’t try to force your newly acquired knowledge on the one that is still in; otherwise, all the effort to get him/her to leave will come across as an apostate attack, which will cause them to attack back (which will result in endless fights) or they will shut you out.
One other thing that I remembered is whether the spouse reports everything to elders. If yes, then it will be very hard to do anything for your spouse, because they will give him/her all the wrong advice which will usually cause tension in the marriage. Everyone needs to wake up in their own time. In the meantime both will need to show love, patience and tolerance.
Thank you Lois - I hope you find your Superman
my inspiration comes from the ingredients i have at hand, very often leftovers, and also home grown produce, herbs and spices.
i still have a lot to learn, but i have come a long way since i first started cooking for mr cedars.. i think the first recipe on this thread should by the one that oodad has posted on other thread.... .
shrimp scampi.
Thank you Juan! I enjoyed reading your story.
I am really fascinated by the history of Native Americans. I love to read about their lifestyle and their heritage. Carp is one of the nastiest fish I have tried. I love all fish but the carp is for an acquired taste. My Dad loves it though, but then again he loves haggis too. I will try out different carp recipes though, and when I find one that is decent I will post it for you. I must say one thing though, the salmon cedar plank recipe was written by Open mind and 00DAD! They deserve credit.
i just thought you should know that mrs cedars has finally taken the plunge and joined the forum.
she was able to log on for the first time yesterday.. though we both "awakened" at different stages, mrs cedars was very supportive and non-judgmental when i first began exploring my beliefs from a critical standpoint.
she is currently in the process of reading crisis of conscience and aquainting herself with some of the facts of witness history that were hitherto unknown.
Hello everybody. Thank you all for a very warm welcome.
Juan, I really apologise for not responding to your questions sooner. As you may have already noticed, Cedars is very skillful with the keyboard, while it takes me an eternity to write something. So it’s not your fault.
I did take Survey 2012, I think I was among the first (active) ones to take it. And I gave all the honest answers!!
BTW, thank you for keeping Mr Cedars out of trouble. Good to have you just over the next hillside!
Mouthy – I am your fan. You are the coolest Granny ever. I wish you could put sense into my Granny's head.
3rdgen – Almost could have been, she was on the wrong continent at the time!!
dreamgolfer – thank you. If I can help your wife I definitely will. I understand now how it feels being on both sides, and how hard the awakening is. Maybe she will realize the real truth when she is ready. All the best to you two.
OPPO – thank you
soft+gentle – thank you, for some reason I giggle every time I see your username, I don’t know what’s wrong with me! :)
Simon – Thank you for welcoming me and for keeping this site that helps many. In a way you brought us all together.
Glander – Cheers!!
we recently had a thread highlighting the best british bands.... http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/230126/1/best-british-bands.
it seems only fair to have a similar thread about american bands.. .
here's my own top ten.... 1. the eagles.
I just had rotisserie chicken breast from the local supermarket.
What did you have for dessert?
yesterday was my oldest son's 21st birthday.
as many of you know, i've been disfellowshipped for over 3 years now.
in the spring of this year i did write to the local boe and request my disfellowshipping be rescinded.
I am so sorry 00SAD. I agree with wannabefree and others. Your son is only showing you his love the best way he knows (even though it's twisted). If I was in his situation few years ago I would probably do the same, the way I was. People change. I hope your son does too. He is missing out, but don’t give up on him.
