when i was a jw i did and still enjoy visiting old churches and cathedrals because of the history and amazing architecture of these wonderful old buildings.
a sister in my old congregation regaled us with a story of a visit to the tower of london and walking up this crowded narrow staircase only to discover it led to an old chapel.
the way she described her horror at almost entering you would have thought they were doing human sacrifices.
Just today I visited Worcester cathedral. The history always blows my mind. King John is buried there which I found fascinating.
i once also visited Sudeley Castle where Catherine Parr is entombed. This, too, was an emotional experience.
For me there’s something transcendent in the hundreds of years of history and drama in English castles and cathedrals.
.......you will experience a fate worse than death!
you have been warned - don't come crying to me if you don't go.
you've got one month to change your mind.
In the months before I left I was an MS doing the sound for the memorial.
An elder was one of the servers, passed the bread plate all around the back rows then headed towards me.
I decided I didn’t need to be part of that ritualistic nonsense so put my hand up in a ‘stop’ way. The puzzlement stopped him in his tracks and was broadcast in his expression. After a minute to process this he moved onto serve those sat in the back rooms.
Then came the wine, and the same routine.
As expected, immediately after the memorial finished I was called into the back room by the elder and COBE and asked to explain myself.
I simply asked if it was mandatory to handle the emblems. Of course the answer was “No, but… (nothing)”.
I wished them a good evening and went back into the hall.
i remember having read somewhere, but i cannot find it anymore, that it is possible to debunk the 1914 calculus using only jw publications, like "insight on the scriptures" (chronologies) for example.. do you have any sources about that to suggest to me?.
thanks..
Simple for such fools are misled by the great Deceiver
Yet you quote these same, deceived fools when they align with your dogma.
It must be nice to pick and choose your beliefs like a child in a sweet shop.
this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
If we claim someone "not redeemable", than we are no better then they are.
The Apostle Paul defined a rule to identify those who are not redeemable in Heb 10:26-31:
"If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left..."
so karl klien of the governing body gave his life story in the watchtower talking about his stress, nervous breakdowns and pressure to take the lead.
it was aweful.
maybe anthony had the same problem..
Yes, it must be very stressful reflecting on all those destroyed lives you've caused.
However, that requires a conscience so probably not that at all.
i remember having read somewhere, but i cannot find it anymore, that it is possible to debunk the 1914 calculus using only jw publications, like "insight on the scriptures" (chronologies) for example.. do you have any sources about that to suggest to me?.
thanks..
What about the 'celebrated' WT scholars? WT Chronology is based not on Barbour but Charles Russell and his associates
If you want to open the embarrassing can of worms that CTR created, which have over the years been systematically dropped as teachings by WT, then you need the bumps on your head felt.
Which incidentally was some other quackery CTR believed in.
this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
What happens when a megalomaniac loses their power? We’ll soon find out.
Is he still anointed? Will he serve his penance back in one of the departments being overseen by his new masters, or is it out into the cold where the rest of the dogs are?
Is there a way back, much like an elder can be removed but later serve again?
Kant seems appropriate, “If man makes himself a worm he must not complain when he is trodden on.”
i remember having read somewhere, but i cannot find it anymore, that it is possible to debunk the 1914 calculus using only jw publications, like "insight on the scriptures" (chronologies) for example.. do you have any sources about that to suggest to me?.
thanks..
By constructing a scheme of Chronology based on the backward computation of the reigns of the N B Period you get 586/587 for the Fall of Jerusalem based on material in the Insight volumes. I get that!
The Insight volumes omit nothing and are correct in being faithful to the Bible.
Scholar can be quite wordy but if you skim over the barrage of condescending insults, dig through the layers of wishful thinking and look for the simple truths, they are in there somewhere.
i remember having read somewhere, but i cannot find it anymore, that it is possible to debunk the 1914 calculus using only jw publications, like "insight on the scriptures" (chronologies) for example.. do you have any sources about that to suggest to me?.
thanks..
Thanks Scholar for your reply to this little person.
Please educate me some more.
You said "Your methodology is flawed as it does not account for the biblical-historical period of the 70 years which is unaccounted for in the scheme of NB Period which you have taken from the Insight volumes."
So I pointed out that using the Insight chronology (not really my methodology to be fair) of one king after another, using the Insight volume reign lengths, Jerusalem fell in 587BCE.
Where do these extra 70 years that you insist on come in, in the Insight books?
I went back and reread them and no kings were missing and there was no mention of dropping in an extra 70 years somewhere or other.
Are the Insight books wrong or missing something, because the simple sums from there lead me to 587BCE?
i thought i’d shear this with you good people.
the cognitive dissonance is just breath taking.
i over heard this comment at a relatives family dinner the other night.
OP’s comment from a JW that “Jehovah’s organisation has never stopped anyone from growing a beard” is true.
The org in fact cannot stop you from growing a beard.
In true JW fashion they have deceitfully reframed the problem into something they can defend.
The more accurate truth is that Jehovahs organisation will penalise and punish you for growing a beard.
