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  "But the Basics haven't changed"

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a couple of days ago in town i met a jw guy i have known since he was a kid in diapers, he is now an elder and must be 40 yrs old, still a kid to me, though.. he gave me the spiel about "we would love to see you come back " , i said that i could not come back to the religion i had left as it no longer existed (a line i got from my friend bill), this elder replied that there "had been changes, but the basics remain the same".. i just was not quick enough with this one, i just sort of nodded at that and went on about what i simply could not swallow as "truth".

  overlapping generation etc etc.. what he was meaning by the basics being the same is that nothing has changed on the "what jw's don't believe in" front, i.e trinity, immortal soul etc.

  the reality it is that the basics of jw/wt teachings about what they do believe in have all changed !.

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  For every teaching that has stayed the same, I can name another 5 that have changed.

  Or, for every teaching that has stayed the same, I can name another one which has changed 5 times!

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  Listen, Obey and

  by berrygerry in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i'm extremely neutral in our house, so it's not my influence - honest!.

  my 11-year old is light-years advanced with his intelligence and humour.. he's going around the house singing "listen, obey, and be castrated.".

  was not impressed.. pretty hard to contain my laughter..

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  Very funny kaik!

  "Listen, Obey and Donate"
  "But God's people never pass the plate"
  "If you give everything, God will feel great"
  "Listen, Obey and Donate"

  Lolz
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  What song or line from a song bests describes your time as a JW?????

  by karter in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  waisted days and waisted nites.. freddy fender..

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  Erasure's "Joan"

  Blind vision, Blind faith
  You really can be sold If you dare to disagree
  It's just not within the scheme of things
  To give up your life so easily
  That's not the way you're meant to be
  What a waste of time and energy...

  Blind vision, Blind faith
  You really can't rely On what they tell you for effect
  It's just not within the scheme of things
  To give up your life so easily
  That's not the way you're meant to be
  What a waste of time and energy
  
  
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  QFR August 15, 2014 - Resurrection and Marriage

  by wisdomfrombelow in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the article addressed luke 20:34-36 and now they finally admit jesus could have been referring to the heavenly resurrection.

  they said "put simply, the answer is that we cannot say" which is surprising because they have something to say about everything.

  perhaps all the old people who are waiting the new world as widow and widowers want to know if they have a chance to be reunited with their dead loved one.

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  In Luke 20:27-33 the sadducees posed a situation about a woman who had many husbands, one after the other, then asked Jesus "Who will she be married to in the new system?"

  According to this latest teaching from the WT, Jesus didn't actually answer their question but talked about something else altogether different.

  First instance of Theocratic Warefare?

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  QFR August 15, 2014 - Resurrection and Marriage

  by wisdomfrombelow in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the article addressed luke 20:34-36 and now they finally admit jesus could have been referring to the heavenly resurrection.

  they said "put simply, the answer is that we cannot say" which is surprising because they have something to say about everything.

  perhaps all the old people who are waiting the new world as widow and widowers want to know if they have a chance to be reunited with their dead loved one.

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  @Designer Stubble

  My favourite verse for these constantly changing teachings is Galatians 2:18:
  "For if the very things that I once threw down I build up again, I demonstrate myself to be a transgressor."

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  ELDER BOOK to be HANDED OVER to Min.of Justice (FINLAND)

  by RagingBull in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  jehovah's witnesses to hand over top-secret manualon friday finland's jehovah's witnesses will give their religious rule book to the minister of justice and the minister of the interior so that it can be inspected to ensure that it's in line with finnish rule of law.

  jehovah's witnesses will hand over their secret rule book to the minister of justice, anna-maja henriksson, and the minister of the interior, paivi rasanen.

  image: heikki saukkomaa / lehtikuva until now, only senior members of the jehovahs witnesses committee have had access to the congregation's secret book of rules.. the disciplinary activities of the jehovah's witnesses committee have been criticised for violating human rights.. according to anna-maja henriksson, finland's minister of justice, the purpose of the handover is to examine the book and determine whether its rules and regulations run counter to finnish law.. henriksson and interior minister paivi rasanen met on thursday with the leadership of the jehovah's witnesses in helsinki.

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  Of course, the Minister of Justice will not receive all of the hand written notes that every elder is instructed to add into their books during elder schools and from CO's letters when they visit.

  Very clever - they pre-empted this already.

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  QFR August 15, 2014 - Resurrection and Marriage

  by wisdomfrombelow in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the article addressed luke 20:34-36 and now they finally admit jesus could have been referring to the heavenly resurrection.

  they said "put simply, the answer is that we cannot say" which is surprising because they have something to say about everything.

  perhaps all the old people who are waiting the new world as widow and widowers want to know if they have a chance to be reunited with their dead loved one.

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  The story so far...

  RESURRECTED ONES CAN MARRY?

  YES - 1943 “The Truth Shall Make You Free” p.362 - 364
  [Evil ones] will not come forth [in the resurrection] to take part in the divine mandate [filing the earth], because that will have been completed by the Lord's "other sheep".

  NO - w50 10/15 p. 381 “Be Fruitful, Multiply, Fill the Earth”
  Nor will the resurrected multitudes be privileged to do so, for Jesus plainly stated that such will not marry nor be given in marriage

  Even survivors won't marry - w54 9/15 p. 575 Questions From Readers
  After that final test there will definitely be no marrying or being given in marriage then by those counted worthy of the new world and having the right to eternal life, just as angels have that right

  YES - w54 9/15 p. 575 Questions From Readers
  It is even reasonable and allowable to entertain the comforting thought that those of the other sheep who now die faithful will have an early resurrection and live during the time when the procreation mandate is being fulfilled and when paradise conditions are being spread earth-wide and that they will share in this divinely given service.

  NO - w61 11/15 p. 704 Questions From Readers
  for dead ones with spiritual, heavenly hopes and for dead ones with earthly Paradisaic hopes the rule enunciated by Jesus Christ stands unaltered: “In the resurrection neither do men marry nor are women given in marriage

  NO - w67 10/15 p. 638 Questions From Readers
  Jesus’ words apply to the earthly resurrection, and they indicate that those resurrected will not marry or be reunited in a marriage relationship with former mates.

  YES / MAYBE - w14 8/1 page 29+30, questions from readers
  "Could Jesus be referring only to the heavenly resurrection?" "It is possible"

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  If your not baptized in the name of the father, son and holy spirit. was your baptism official

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  matt 28:19 "go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the father and the son and the holy spirit,.

  i don't ever remember hearing at my baptism nor any other baptism of a jw.

  the person giving the baptism talk or person doing the dunking saying that i/we are baptized in the name of the father, son and holy spirit.. so i have come to the conclusion that my/our baptism's are not official.

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  Besides, what the WT teach today is completely different to what I agreed with at the time of my baptism.

  This is no longer the same religion that I was baptised into.

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  30th Anniversary of THAT classic 1914 WT front cover

  by wizzstick in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

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  please join with me, and celebrate the 30th anniversary of the classic wt with the front cover which boldly proclaimed that the generation of 1914 would never pass away.. the cover date of the that wt is infact this very day so let us raise a glass to this clear sign they have god's backing:.

  in this the 100th anniversary of our lords return (invisibly of course brothers) it is a fine and appropriate thing to do..

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  "Will not" pass away. Can't get much clearer than that.

  This was the 1980's equivilent of Russell's "Millions now living" campaign.

  I think we're due for a new one anytime now, wonder what the catchphrase will be this time?
  "Will you Live Forever? (Ps 37:29)"

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  An increase in security at this summer's conventions??

  by gingerbread in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we've heard from friends in two separate congregations in our city that convention security will be tight.. the brothers made announcements this week and reminded everyone to be sure to wear their name badges.

  those that don't may be questioned and have their belongings searched.

  the same will be happen to anyone arriving during the sessions.

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  I'm attending again at this years DC so I'll see if we are given any different instructions compared to previous years.

  If anything the security last year was reduced due to the 'watcher' teams being disbanded and included into the regular attendant teams.

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