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  May tv.jw.org program

  by zophar in

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  the may broadcast on tv.jw.org.

  we need money!.

  http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodstudio/pub-jwb_201505_1_video.

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  Splash

  Where is that AM3 broadcast where he talks about churches keep asking for money, then says "we never want to be like that?"

  It's been posted here quite recently.
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  Jesus' Hands and Buddha's Head

  by CloseTheDoor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i overheard an elder and sister talking last sunday.

  she has been helping her mother move things out of her house to get ready for moving into a retirement home.

  she told the elder that her mother gave her one of those "praying hands" plaques and asked if she should keep it or throw it out.

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  Elders make up rules as they go along.

  If you don't want to hear made up rules, don't ask an elder for their opinion.
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  The three wise men

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just a thought.... looking through the greatest man book, something just occurred to me which i can't recall has ever been highlighted (but please correct me).. i always thought it a bit strange that jehovah allowed the three pagan astrologers to find jesus especially as they were obviously guided to him by satan's star (remember they were led to herod first who wanted to kill the messiah).

  what purpose did it serve?.

  well, a few pages earlier in tgm book, we see mary presenting a dove as a sin offering at the temple - this was the cheapest offering that was acceptable which must have meant that they were pretty poor at the time.. shortly after the three wise men visited the family had to flee to egypt when herod started to kill all the young boys in an attempt to kill jesus.. what would they need to travel and live as exiles for a couple of years?.

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  Gold represents kingship, royalty.

  Frankincense is the priestly incense used in offerings.

  Myrrh is used in death preparations.

  So these gifts identified a king priest who would have a significant death.

  I also think this can be easily debunked.
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  Would you call JW HQ???

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a friend who is still in.

  this friend is a partaker, but has serious doubts about the org.

  this friend wants to stand up as a man, and wants to call wtbts hq.

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  Splash

  It will go one of three ways, in descending likelihood.

  1. He's told to wait on Jehovah and don't cause ructions in the meantime.

  2. He's reprimanded by the elders on the say so of the CO who has now been involved.

  3. They ask him to come and join them on the GB.
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  May’s ‘study WT’ admits having taught “far-fetched” ideas

  by wheelwithinwheel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  not on the front page, not in the study articles, but carefully camouflaged in the questions from readers on page 18 (watchtower march 15, 2015).

  you can bet most jws wont even read it..

  there is no apology...just the usual excuses..

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  TYPES AND ANTITYPES

  Are Important - w50 9/15 p. 321 Ancient Patterns for the Present
  "Could it be that all those regulations, ordinances and commandments given Israel regarding their tabernacle services and sacrifices were pictorial of greater things to come? Most assuredly!"

  Are Important - w70 12/1 p. 714 par. 4 The Desolator of Christendom Historically Prefigured
  "Consequently, the ancient type shows us what its modern antitype will be like; and what befell the ancient type indicates prophetically what must befall its modern antitype,"

  Are Important - w71 3/15 p. 180 par. 5 A Change from Mourning to a Good Day
  "This agrees with the fact that in the antitype the Esther class, acting under the instructions of the Mordecai class, do not try to destroy by violence the professed Christian clergy of Christendom."

  Are Important - kj (Know Jehovah) - 1971 chap. 12 p. 216 par. 9 "Until He Comes..."
  "Shortly, within our twentieth century, the "battle in the day of Jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom."
  (NOTE: This statement is wrong on two counts. 1. For using Types, and 2. For getting the date wrong!)

  Are Important - w72 12/1 p. 714 par. 21 The One True Temple at Which to Worship
  "Also, what is the antitype of the first compartment or Holy of the earthly tent or temple? Let us figure this out with Bible help."

  Are Important (last reference to types/antitypes for 13 years...) - w02 5/1 p. 30 Q.F.R.
  "In times past, it has been said that the great crowd is in a spiritual equivalent, or an antitype, of the Court of the Gentiles that existed in Jesus’ day. However, further research has revealed at least five reasons why that is not so. (NOTE: 'Five reasons' for flip flopping on that particular subject!)"

  Are NOT important - w2015 3/15 p.17 Questions From Readers
  "Many years ago, our publications stated that such faithful men and women as Deborah, Elihu, Jephthah, Job, Rahab, and Rebekah, as well as many others, were really types, or shadows, of either the anointed or the "great crowd."...

  Some writers in the centuries after Christ’s death fell into a trap—they saw types everywhere... even in the number of fish caught by the disciples on the night the risen Saviour appeared to them—how much some have tried to make of that number, 153!" (NOTE: much like Daniels images toes perhaps?)

  "Humans cannot know which Bible accounts are shadows of things to come and which are not. The clearest course is this: Where the Scriptures teach that an individual, an event, or an object is typical of something else, we accept it as such. Otherwise, we ought to be reluctant to assign an antitypical application to a certain person or account if there is no specific Scriptural basis for doing so."
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  Golden Rule: Pure Garbage?

  by willmarite in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on another thread a poster made the comment that the golden rule was garbage.

  she said it was arrogant and made assumptions.. i didn't want to derail that thread so i started another wondering if this is a common thought about this belief on this forum.

  i guess i naively thought the value of doing to others as you want them to do to you was generally accepted as positive.. i understand people have different opinions of jesus as a person but i don't want to get into that here.

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  "Gary Ridgway, what do you have to say in your defence?"

  "I followed the Golden Rule, your honour."
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  What do you think? Should chimpanzees be granted 'personhood'?

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there's a current court case in ny which is hearing that question right now.

  the precise issue is the continued captivity of two chimpanzees, (leo and hercules, names bestowed by humans) in a medical research laboratory at stony brook university.. i suggest that the application has some merit.

  are not all of us "animals?

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  Barrold Bonds if they're considered people can we fuck them?

  By the look of your avatar, your parents already did!

  Tempest in a Teacup So far as they can pay taxes too, no problem!

  I wonder how the smartest chimp compares to the most severely disabled person.
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  Is There a Liar in London Bethel????

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's come to my attention - via someone who attended mark sanderson's televised talk to the u.k - that an elder's wife was upset at a blatant lie by a bethelite speaker, prior to mr. sanderson making an appearance.. it seems that the "supporting act" from mill hill - mr. paul gillies - informed the nationwide audience that the britain branch was waiting for planning permission for the new branch, and would provide updates when news came in.. it turns out that mr. gillies was lying, in order to let the governing body member get the prolonged applause later, for announcing that the permission had been given the day before!.

  naughty mr.

  gillies!!

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  To be fair, it was nothing more than a staged gimmick.

  First we're told we're all waiting.... Then we're told the wait is over!
  It was quite polished as a corporate presentation.

  I can think of more serious issues they've been deceitful about
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  Would you give your life for those that shun you?

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  'no one has greater love than this, that someone would lay down his life for his friends.'.

  many have been hurt by the practice of shunning.

  family members, [former?

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  Family life or death - Yes I would help.

  Family major problems which are not life or death - Let them ask their other 'friends'.

  Non-family - They can deal with it themselves.

  If we were 2,000 years ago, these same people would have stoned us to death so we wouldn't even be here to help.
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  Do You Think They Will Have Donuts?

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.halsteadgazette.co.uk/news/halstead_news/12919606.open_day_at_kingdom_hall_of_jehovah___s_witnesses_in_halstead/

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  Splash

  From two weeks earlier in the same paper:

  Residents feeling plagued by Jehovah's Witnesses