Posts by Splash

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My experience of christians and religion

by Doltologist in

one or two of you have noticed that i use derogatory terms when talking about matters religion.

i offer no apology.

you do, however, deserve an explanation.. my father, bless him and now dead, was a survivor of belsen, the german concentration camp.

Splash

Doltologist One or two of you have noticed that I use derogatory terms when talking about matters religion.

This was your opening statement. Your whole post goes on to give reasons why you use this terminology. It shouldn't come as a surprise that I respond to it.

To give you my view on religion (not just Chistianity) in history, I'd say it has added to mankind in some aspects, but been detrimental in other aspects.

Doltologist Is this what is important to you, terminology?

Yes, terminology and language is important of course. Important here, important in politics, important in business, important in life.

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No end to JW logic, Oranges can make you gay

by James Mixon in

i was told that today by a jw...no more to say.

My experience of christians and religion

by Doltologist in

one or two of you have noticed that i use derogatory terms when talking about matters religion.

i offer no apology.

you do, however, deserve an explanation.. my father, bless him and now dead, was a survivor of belsen, the german concentration camp.

Splash

That's a pretty incredible story - thanks for sharing it.

Personally I don't like the terms Christards, Jokehovians, the LIEble, the Babble, sky wizard, sky daddy etc.
I can understand that people enjoy ridiculing something they dislike, but when it's persistent it looks like a juvenile high-five each time. A "look at me, I'm being abusive, aren't I clever, and you can't stop me" kind of thing.

When I see them the first couple of times I think here's someone who hates the WT.
When I see the same months/years later I think just get over it, it's not good for you. Time to grow up.

Even Oubliettes "Let's review" signature is tiresome, not to say I don't like his posts though, because I do and I read them all.

I also think these terms are red flags for lurkers.
Got a lingering doubt and come here to see what others might think? See these terms and run for the hills - everything you were taught about apostate websites was true.
If you don't really care about that and are more interested in getting your made up words out there, well that's your choice.

You can be more effective, convincing and persuasive by using proper words than made up ones. Read any of Terry's posts to see what I mean.

All IMHO.

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Turning disassociation around on the org

by tim3l0rd in

recently i was researching the scripture used to justify why da'd ones were to be shunned the same as df'd ones and decided that this could easily be turned around.

they use 2 john 9-11.. 9 everyone who pushes ahead and does not remain in the teaching of the christ does not have god.+ the one who does remain in this teaching is the one who has both the father and the son.

10 if anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him.

Splash

w11 7/15 p. 16 par. 6 Will You Heed Jehovah's Clear Warnings?
"How can we protect ourselves against false teachers? The Bible's counsel regarding how to deal with them is clear. (Read Romans 16:17; 2 John 9-11.) 'Avoid them,' says God's Word. Other translations render that phrase 'turn away from them,' 'keep away from them,' and 'stay away from them!' There is nothing ambiguous about that inspired counsel."

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Very Offensive Statement Directed To JW Parents-Watchtower 4/15/2015 Page 11 Paragraph 9

by JW GoneBad in

wt is insinuating, worse yet, blaming senior jw parents for there not being more younger brothers reaching out to be ministerial servants and elders.

page 11 paragraph 9 reads as follows: .

"elders in affluent lands may face an added challenge: how to motivate baptized brothers in their 20s or 30s to get involved in congregation activities.

Splash

It seems to be a very long standing problem.
Maybe this is just a regular article they wheel out periodically.

ARE THERE ENOUGH ELDERS?

NO - w15 4/15 p. 4 par. 3 Elders, How Do You Feel About Training Others?
more brothers are needed to keep existing congregations spiritually strong and to allow new congregations to be formed.

YES - es15 p. 94 September
Jehovah certainly has provided an abundance of spiritual men

NO - w14 9/15 p. 3 Are You “Reaching Out”?
there is a need for more brothers to reach out

YES - w13 11/15 p. 20 par. 16 Seven Shepherds, Eight Dukes—What They Mean for Us Today
Today, Jehovah certainly has provided an abundance of spiritual men to shepherd his precious sheep

NO - w11 11/15 p. 2 Table of Contents
There is a need for men who can take the lead in spiritual matters

NO - p. 28 par. 2 Train Others to Reach Out
there continues to be a need for men to take the lead in spiritual matters. For instance, Christian elders are greatly needed.

NO - p. 32 par. 17 Train Others to Reach Out
consider the fact that there is a great need for mature men to accept privileges of service in God’s organization

NO - w10 5/15 p. 24 par. 3 Brothers—Sow to the Spirit and Reach Out!
there is a great need for ministerial servants and elders today

NO - w06 11/15 p. 13 A School Whose Graduates Benefit People Worldwide
there is an ever-increasing need for dedicated men to reach out for greater responsibility

NO - w01 1/1 p. 9 par. 7 Be Built Up by Love
there is a great need for more elders

NO - w93 1/1 p. 21 par. 14 Shepherding With Our Grand Creator
There is an outstanding need for all baptized male Witnesses to reach out for further privileges

NO - w90 4/15 p. 25 ‘Fishing for Men’ in Belize
There is a great need for mature brothers to take the lead in the congregations.

YES - w80 9/1 p. 21 par. 1 Overseers—Be Fine Examples to “the Flock”
This fact is recognized by thousands of dedicated, spiritual men who are entrusted with this privilege today

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Very Offensive Statement Directed To JW Parents-Watchtower 4/15/2015 Page 11 Paragraph 9

by JW GoneBad in

wt is insinuating, worse yet, blaming senior jw parents for there not being more younger brothers reaching out to be ministerial servants and elders.

page 11 paragraph 9 reads as follows: .

"elders in affluent lands may face an added challenge: how to motivate baptized brothers in their 20s or 30s to get involved in congregation activities.

Splash

Who is it who provides the elders for the congregations?

*** w11 6/15 p. 25 par. 3 “Have Regard for Those Who Are Working Hard Among You” ***
"How do you view the “gifts in men” whom God through Christ has provided in your congregation?"

*** w10 9/15 p. 18 par. 8 Christian Unity Glorifies God ***
"Jesus has provided “gifts in men” to help unify the congregation"

Maybe God and Christ are telling them something.

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Going back to the 2008 Generation

by FusionTheism in

it looks to me like the society is rapidly moving back to the february 2008 watchtower "new light" on "this generation," which said this:.

* jesus used "this generation" to mean "anointed ones.".

* in the first fulfillment, jesus was promising that some anointed ones would still be alive to witness the events of 70 c.e.. * in the secondary fulfillment, jesus was promising that some anointed ones would still be alive when jesus returns to judge the sheep and goats.. the new 2015 jw research guide posted on jw.org lists this 2008 watchtower article as the first article people should read about the "clarified understanding" of the generation.. this 2008 view also matches the statement in the new 2015 jesus--the way, the truth, the life book, which says that "this generation" refers to disciples who see the signs of the last days.. i think they are abandoning the overlapping part..

Splash

So that alone gives us a definition of how long a generation is.

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Going back to the 2008 Generation

by FusionTheism in

it looks to me like the society is rapidly moving back to the february 2008 watchtower "new light" on "this generation," which said this:.

* jesus used "this generation" to mean "anointed ones.".

* in the first fulfillment, jesus was promising that some anointed ones would still be alive to witness the events of 70 c.e.. * in the secondary fulfillment, jesus was promising that some anointed ones would still be alive when jesus returns to judge the sheep and goats.. the new 2015 jw research guide posted on jw.org lists this 2008 watchtower article as the first article people should read about the "clarified understanding" of the generation.. this 2008 view also matches the statement in the new 2015 jesus--the way, the truth, the life book, which says that "this generation" refers to disciples who see the signs of the last days.. i think they are abandoning the overlapping part..

Splash

prologos a generation, normally defined from birth to parenthood.

Your genitals generate a new generation.

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Demon Stories

by humblepotato in

jw
friends

so we all know that "crazy" brother or sister.

every kingdom hall has one.

they give the best comments (from a hilarious perspective), have experiences with the "demons", but most importantly, they are on about 10 deifferent kinds of medications.

Splash

Vidiot "Wouldn't it be more effective to leave the guy alone after he'd gone into the wrong church?"

Maybe that's exactly what they did.

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Disfellowshipping Image

by naazira in

jw
friends

this photo can be found in the april 15 , study edition article titled:.

why disfellowshipping is a loving provision.

just by looking at this image we can see how quickly the barrier between the congregation and former member is put up, after the announcement that this sister is no longer one of jehovah's witneses.

Splash

The image on page 1 is cropped from a larger image.

All I've been able to find is this version which has been overlaid.