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  A Watchtower quote about apostates I never knew about

  by Saintbertholdt in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i knew the watchtower didn't like me, but i didn't know they wanted to physically kill me (if they were allowed)from the 15 november 1952 watchtower magazine under questions from readers:.

  in the case of where a father or mother or son or daughter is disfellowshiped, how should such person be treated by members of the family in their family relationship?.

  we are not living today among theocratic nations where such members of our fleshly family relationship could be exterminated for apostasy from god and his theocratic organization, as was possible and was ordered in the nation of israel in the wilderness of sinai and in the land of palestine... (and a bit later)..being limited by the laws of the worldly nation in which we live and also by the laws of god through jesus christ, we can take action against apostates only to a certain extent, that is, consistent with both sets of laws.. so let me get this straight: if our secular pesky laws were not an obstacle and jesus was not in the way we'd be hunted and exterminated?.

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  Splash

  You should've replied "If I was in Israel I would have had a fair trial by competent men."
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  What Would Happen if the Watchtower Loses Their TAX EXEMPT STATUS?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  would it really affect them?

  how would it affect volunteers at any construction project since that work would now be taxable.

  any materials they buy would be taxable.

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  They would be hit with property taxes and in the UK at least, their contributions would be down by 20% at a stroke.
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  Master piece!

  by coalize in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what we can read in the wt 10/15/2015... they have really no shame!.

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  Shutting the gate after the horse has bolted.

  This directive will be forgotten 5 minutes after it has been read out.
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  Olympus camera program

  by zeb in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i have just lost hours collating, editing hundreds of images on this useless s*** program.

  its called olympus viewer 3 and it decided to shut down and wiped out my work.

  this was part of a business i was creating.. back ups i never stood a chance no more olympus cameras for me.

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  Splash

  Image editing takes loads of memory.

  If your PC struggles, you're more likely to have these sort of program crashes.

  It sounds cruel to say it, but there's no substitute for saving often and having backups.

  Sorry to hear your frustrations.
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  Single Sisters

  by BashfulAshG in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  am i the only one who has single, desperate sisters in the congregation?

  they tend to be holier-than-thou, frumpty, but in private talk about getting married.

  but they don't understand why no brother will look at them.

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  Splash

  To be fair, there are few 'ugly' men and women. 80% are just normal with a few who are extra good looking and a few who are less than good looking.

  Plus, looks fade. I'd rather be married to a plain but interesting and attentive mate, than a beautiful airhead.
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  Looking Back In Retrospect To 1975...

  by titch in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  greetings, folks: so, it's been 40 years since 1975. and, if you were actively involved with the witnesses back then, the mindset of many was, that by early autumn of 1975, it would mark the anniversary of 6000 years of human existence.

  and, the hope was then, that it would mark the start of the 1000-year of christ, from the heavenly realm.

  but, looking back now, 40 years ago, in june of 1975, only 3 more months remained until early autumn.

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  Why does the last creative day have to be such a rounded number?

  Why can't it be 7092 years long? 7601 years long? 19283 years long?

  WT look for number patterns that land in the current timeframe and try to make them fit a baseless interpretation. WT decide on a date and then try to justify it.

  None of this has any credence beyond a weak "but it would make sense if...".

  Bottom line is, no matter how convinced you are, there's simply no evidence for a creative day being one duration rather than any other duration.
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  Looking Back In Retrospect To 1975...

  by titch in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  greetings, folks: so, it's been 40 years since 1975. and, if you were actively involved with the witnesses back then, the mindset of many was, that by early autumn of 1975, it would mark the anniversary of 6000 years of human existence.

  and, the hope was then, that it would mark the start of the 1000-year of christ, from the heavenly realm.

  but, looking back now, 40 years ago, in june of 1975, only 3 more months remained until early autumn.

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  I think they're sure now.

  Kinda.
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  Looking Back In Retrospect To 1975...

  by titch in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  greetings, folks: so, it's been 40 years since 1975. and, if you were actively involved with the witnesses back then, the mindset of many was, that by early autumn of 1975, it would mark the anniversary of 6000 years of human existence.

  and, the hope was then, that it would mark the start of the 1000-year of christ, from the heavenly realm.

  but, looking back now, 40 years ago, in june of 1975, only 3 more months remained until early autumn.

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  Yeah, I meant directly after that meeting.

  Regarding the 7,000 years to each creative day, to start with there was no question...

  - w54 8/1 p. 478 The Purpose of Your Witnessing
  Each creative day was 7,000 years in length. See "New Heavens and a New Earth", pages 40-43.

  
  

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  - w93 1/1 p. 4 Our Grand Creator and His Works
  In an orderly sequence of six 'creative days,' each thousands of years in length

  
  

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  - g03 9/22 p. 21 Science Was My Religion
  the creative days lasted aeons

  
  

  followed by

  
  

  - w04 4/1 p. 6 Identifying the Wild Beast and Its Mark
  God's creative week comprises seven 'days,' or extended time periods

  
  

  also know as

  
  

  - w11 2/15 p. 8 par. 10 Holy Spirit—At Work in Creation!
  These are not 24-hour days but are epochs.

  
  

  or less precisely

  
  

  - g11/11 p. 9 Which Approach Is More Reasonable?
  Each day evidently involved a considerable length of time.

  
  

  Going almost full circle to a speculative

  
  

  - g14/3 p. 5 How Long Did God Take To Create The Universe?
  each of the six creative days could have lasted for thousands of years.
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  Request for Info on Current Annual # jws Df'd and are the WT CDs being generated for jws any more or only info on www.jw.org

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  please post info here for a researcher.

  thanks.

  blondie would do but is under the gun at work.

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  Splash

  I can extrapolate.

  *** w94 4/1 p. 16 par. 8 Are You Resisting the Spirit of the World? ***
  "each year about 40,000 individuals are disfellowshipped from Jehovah’s organization"

  So in 1994 40,000 out of 4.5 million average publishers. This is 0.9%
  Applying that percentage to today's 7.9 million publishers = 71,000 per year.

  Add to this the death rate which in 2014 was about 0.8% globally.
  Applying that percentage to today's 7.9 million publishers = 63,000 per year.

  On top of this there are those who just leave.

  Very broad estimates!

  Regarding the CD-ROM, one was released last year and I've not heard that it is discontinued just yet.
  I think it is inevitable that it will be stopped in favour of the JW website, however.
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  Pre assembly video clip

  by InquiryMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the music is somewhat different than in traditional jw-video clips.. https://sammankomst.org/#/video/tirsdag.mp4/forberedelser%20-%20tisdag.

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  Splash

  There's proof right there that this is Jehovah's organisation.

  And that the end is coming soon.