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  Changes to the Kingdom Interlinear

  by PanzerZauberei in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the 1969 kit the society used a book by bible scholar justus lipsius as source material for their upright stake "stauros" doctrine of the death of christ.

  they used an image of a man hung on an upright stake with no crossbeam attached to it.

  then they placed a caption under it saying that the illustration came from lipsius.

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  OK, now a serious question.

  Mt 27:38 says "Then two robbers were put on stakes alongside him, one on his right and one on his left"

  Picture that scene in your mind. How would it look?

  Now read John 19:32-33 "The soldiers came and broke the legs of the first man and those of the other man who was on a stake alongside him. But on coming to Jesus, they saw that he was already dead, so they did not break his legs."

  Question. If Jesus was in the middle, why does it say the two other wrongdoers were alongside each other, and that the soldiers 'came' to Jesus last?
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  Changes to the Kingdom Interlinear

  by PanzerZauberei in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the 1969 kit the society used a book by bible scholar justus lipsius as source material for their upright stake "stauros" doctrine of the death of christ.

  they used an image of a man hung on an upright stake with no crossbeam attached to it.

  then they placed a caption under it saying that the illustration came from lipsius.

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  Splash

  The society is obsessed with numbers. Numbers mean things.

  Got less than 10 hours ministry? Spiritually weak.

  Got 20 million attending the memorial? Proves it's Gods organisation.

  2% increase per year? The small one is becoming a nation.

  So how about this one: A quarter of the earth's population say Jesus died on a cross? The stake teaching is false.

  This logic is unassailable, the conclusions irrefutable. Maybe 😀
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  I wonder with all this sex abuse drama if Wt would ever apologize to Bill Bowen and Barbara Anderson.

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  wt obviously must realize now the value of those that tried to enforce change on them.

  i think if it wasn't for these people doing what they did wt would be in even more drama now.

  so my question is do you ever think wt would voluntarily reinstate and publicly apologize to bill bowen and barbara anderson for all their hard work in bringing reform.

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  After their hype and predictions about 1975 were proven false, the WT demonstrated their humility by blaming the ordinary witnesses for getting it wrong.

  After the WT printed that receiving an organ transplant was cannibalism, they later corrected the faithful by reprimanding 'some who feel that taking some one else's organ into their own body was cannibalistic'.

  The org is never wrong. Whatever the Ministry of Truth says today is right, and it was never any other way.
  They have no humility, no shame, no modesty. They are above receiving counsel from anyone within or outside their organisation.

  They have eaten from the Tree of Knowledge and now decide for themselves what is good and bad.
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  Mr Jackson declines to appear in RC

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.jw-archive.org/post/125844213823/geoffrey-jackson-declines-to-appear-before#at_pco=cfd-1.0&at_ab=per-15&at_pos=0&at_tot=14&at_si=55c27690475c6bb3

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  G.Jackson did the monthly broadcast in Nov 2014 and again in June 2015.

  Let's see how well he does on TV, live and without an auto-cue.
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  Huge list of victims

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.reddit.com/domain/childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/.compact.

  i pressed all the wrong buttons.

  here it is, posted about an hour ago..

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  kookie How the JW trolls and apologists are answering all this is to give information on other religions and their problems and society in general,

  There is nothing else they can do but this.

  In the face of being found culpable with no excuses, the only thing they can say is "look over there instead".
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  Instructions To Elders Re: Pursuing Higher Education

  by baldeagle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  underlining is mine.. march 6, 2012 letter.

  pursue divine education:some of our brothers are pursuing higher education, feeling that they can acquire a measure of financial security.

  as you are aware, the educational system varies from country to country.

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  "acquiring a measure of financial security" is easy to do when you have 7 million followers being coerced, non stop, for more and more money. It also helps that you can turf congregations out of their kingdom halls when you need to sell a few buildings.

  Let's see the WT become self sufficient instead of sponging off it's poor members.
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  Huge list of victims

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.reddit.com/domain/childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/.compact.

  i pressed all the wrong buttons.

  here it is, posted about an hour ago..

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  kookie hope you don't mind Splash if I c/p your reply saves me typing.

  Feel free. Be aware that I only quickly counted the figures in the pdf, not put them into a spreadsheet, so the figures may be out by one or two.
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  Huge list of victims

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.reddit.com/domain/childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/.compact.

  i pressed all the wrong buttons.

  here it is, posted about an hour ago..

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  Angus Stewart discredited that '300' figure.
  The WT merely scanned their files for the word "police" and conveniently assumed the police had been involved each time that word was found.

  Angus said that the word "police" may have been used in a sentence such as "police were not informed", but the WT counted this as an incident where the police were informed, simply because the word 'police' was used.

  If any were reported to the police, then the WT's own records (linked to in the OP) show that this was not done by the JW's in any single instance.

  This is a perfect example of Theocratic Warfare being used. Another term for Deception.
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  Huge list of victims

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.reddit.com/domain/childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/.compact.

  i pressed all the wrong buttons.

  here it is, posted about an hour ago..

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  Splash

  By the numbers:

  1006 Abusers
  63 Ministerial Servants
  42 Elders
  28 Abusers appointed at a later date
  124 Not investigated because there were not 2 witnesses
  128 Confessions but no JC formed
  398 Disfellowshipped
  236 Reinstated
  1730 Victims
  0 Reported to the police by JW's
  
  
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  Extremely difficult situation the .Org is in

  by Lemonp in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  as far as i can imagine, the .org is in a lose, lose, lose situation right now.

  if jackson shows to the rc, and policy chages, then bible interpretation was changed sans-holy spirit.

  policy change is an admission of guilt, not helpful in future civil court cases.

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  Splash

  This organisation has more spin than a plate balancing act.

  I'm expecting the rumour mill to go into action, creating more urban myths around how the RC learned so much from JW's, that the elders were commended for being ahead of even the secular experts, how every objection was overturned by the scriptures and how the conclusion of the whole Royal Commission was that JW's have the best systems they have ever seen, and oh so much better than the Catholics.

  Truth counts for very little in these circumstances and JW's are desperate to hear this. When they do it will settle every concern they have and will be the go-to response to any discussion about it.