Posts by Splash

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"I am Happy to be Controlled" - Edinburgh Elder on Cult Cart

by cofty in

so my wife and i were up in edinburgh for the weekend for the international festival - we had a great weekend including going to see the military tattoo at the castle.. we were walking up the royal mile watching the street performers among hundreds of thousands of others from all over the world when i spotted the cult cart in it's usual spot being universally ignored.

feeling confident after my confrontation a couple of weeks ago we decided to go and have a chat with the two men.

i asked them if they were keeping up with the events in australia and proceeded to share lots of information with them.

Splash

I must get up to Edinburgh one day, maybe hop on a train.

When I'm confronted with non-thinkers who 'would shun their children', or 'would die rather than take blood', and so on, I ask "but what if the rules change and you no longer have to shun or refuse blood, would you change your view too?"

If they say they would change (as they have to, since they are mandated to let the GB think on their behalf) then I point out that actually they are following men then, and not the Bible.

It rarely triggers any reaction, but then again what am I expecting from someone who can no longer think?

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List the lies from the Royal Commision

by Crazyguy in

i was not able to watch all the video's and i'm sure many others we not able as well.

many have stated that the elders and the gb member lied.

i thought it's would be a good idea to list the lies and which video and at what minute mark, that way all could see and reference for themselves.

Splash

Billy the Ex started a good topic on this and captured some howlers.

gb-member-geoffrey-jackson-lying

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Jehovah’s Witnesses face child sexual-abuse investigation in Australia - Washington Post article

by defender of truth in

of the religious and nonreligious groups being investigated, the jehovahs witnesses are exceptional, experts say.. in a converted office in downtown sydney, the organizations doctrines and practices are being parsed by lawyers, victims and journalists, providing rare insight into one of the christian worlds most conservative churches.. .

the church, which was founded in pennsylvania during the 1870s to promote a 1st-century interpretation of the bible, has emerged as the least able or willing to deal with sexual abuse within its ranks, said anne cossins, an associate law professor at the university of new south wales and an expert in sex crimes who is a consultant for the inquiry.. .

i find their approach to the issue and victims extraordinarily bizarre almost medieval, she said in an interview.. .

Splash

She will be quoted in an Awake next year.

"According to Anne Cossins, a law professor, expert and consultant, '[Jehovah's Witnesses] have emerged as [...] able, [...] willing to deal with sexual abuse within it's ranks'."

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Geoffrey Jackson's Amnesia at the Royal Commission!

by The Searcher in

at 20:00 - 21:30 in his testimony, mr. geoffrey jackson - in answer to mr. stewart's question about the governing body claiming to be god's spokespersons - claimed that it would be presumptuous of them to say that they were the only spokespersons which god was using.

mr. jackson doesn't seem to know what he and his fellow g.b.

members - and the providers of his lifestyle, the wtbts - actually teach as "bible truth.

Splash

This is the way the organisation is, not just Jeffrey Jackson.

They don't have a concrete stance on anything, but constantly revise their position and reinterpret their own words.
Good grief, they even put new meaning into well established words in order to distort, confuse and allow room for maneuver.

(Micah 6:12) . . .their tongue is tricky in their mouth.

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Geoffrey Jackson's Amnesia at the Royal Commission!

by The Searcher in

at 20:00 - 21:30 in his testimony, mr. geoffrey jackson - in answer to mr. stewart's question about the governing body claiming to be god's spokespersons - claimed that it would be presumptuous of them to say that they were the only spokespersons which god was using.

mr. jackson doesn't seem to know what he and his fellow g.b.

members - and the providers of his lifestyle, the wtbts - actually teach as "bible truth.

Splash

suavojr One Jdub said Jackson was acting like Jesus and not saying where he got his authority from.

There was no question that Jesus had power, it's just that Jesus didn't say where from.

The GB have never demonstrated they even have Jesus choosing, let alone anything else.
Their authority comes from themselves, which is no authority.
2 Cor 10:18 For it is not the one who recommends himself who is approved, but the one whom Jehovah recommends.

They are more like Simon Magus who also claimed he was someone great and had the power of God.

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Do you believe Jehovah's Witnesses' Governing Body is the "faithful slave"?

by Marvin Shilmer in

this question is known to be posed by jws to other jws as an acid test of loyalty.

i'm not the first to notice what i'm about to point out and comment accordingly, but today i felt compelled to add a short article on my blog highlighting the new language that governing body member geoffrey jackson supplies as a response.

a person who honestly hesitates to respond with a robust "yes!

Splash

For the purposes of the WT publications there is no doubt, no question.
The GB are Jehovah's spoke person, there is nowhere else to get salvation, you cannot question them.

For the purpose of the court and public exposure there is a fabricated, artificial humility.
"I think it would be quite presumptuous to say we are the only spokesperson God is using".
"We view ourselves as trying to fulfill that role [of the faithful slave]".

If JG had God's spirit, if he was abso-f***ing-lutely certain that the GB are God's highest authority on earth, he would have responded
"Yes! The GB alone are directed by God to speak biblical truth in a Satanic world."
"We dictate doctrine and understanding direct from our brother Jesus."
"If you think there is something wrong with our procedures then know these are God's procedures. Take it up with Him!"

JW's around the world would have cheered loud and hard at this man's confidence.

Instead we get a wishy washy answer from a weak man removed from his fan base.

Charlatans.

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Will Jehovah`s Witnesses join with other religions in Compensation Payouts ?

by smiddy in

justice mcclellen asked g.jackson about compensation for victims of child abuse , and mcclellan suggested it be by a consortium of groups , presumably religious and secular in nature as a pool to dispense approppiate compensation to all of the victims involved .. g.jackson hesitated and said they would have to look at the details of that proposal , before committing to it.. jehovah`s witnesses consider themselves as the only true religion and ,all others as false religion .. they take pains to separate themselves from from any association with other religions , not even being included in newspaper notices about church services.they want to keep themselves separate and distinct from false religion as they see them.. so how do you think they will handle this suggestion / requirement ?

will they join in aligning themselves with "babylon the great" in compensation .?.

didn`t they align themselves with another religion in the u.s.a. some years ago , that had to do with the w.t.

Splash

If forced to offer compensation, the WT seek to organise this process themselves.
Given that they have already mistreated and further harmed abuse victims with traumatic and inadequate procedures and unqualified elders, they seek to compound the damage by making the victims apply to the WT (and all that would entail) for compensation.

I think the WT are worried that if there is a simple and caring way for survivors to claim compensation, then every one of the abuse victims would do so, and the WT would be powerless to dissuade them.

Without their usual non-disclosure clauses it would become public and expensive.

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BLONDIE’S HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE 08-16-2015 WT STUDY (JUNE 15, 2015, pages (13-17) (CHASTE)

by blondie in

wt publications http://www.a2z.org/wtarchive/archive.htm (old).

united nations http://www.randytv.com/secret/unitednations.htm .

when pornography is mentioned by the wts they mean men, who obviously cant control their sexual desires, so that even a moment is too much.

Splash

Thanks Blondie, always read your analyses.

BTW, where's your avatar? I don't recognise this nondescript brown thing as I'm scanning posts.

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Will Jehovah`s Witnesses join with other religions in Compensation Payouts ?

by smiddy in

justice mcclellen asked g.jackson about compensation for victims of child abuse , and mcclellan suggested it be by a consortium of groups , presumably religious and secular in nature as a pool to dispense approppiate compensation to all of the victims involved .. g.jackson hesitated and said they would have to look at the details of that proposal , before committing to it.. jehovah`s witnesses consider themselves as the only true religion and ,all others as false religion .. they take pains to separate themselves from from any association with other religions , not even being included in newspaper notices about church services.they want to keep themselves separate and distinct from false religion as they see them.. so how do you think they will handle this suggestion / requirement ?

will they join in aligning themselves with "babylon the great" in compensation .?.

didn`t they align themselves with another religion in the u.s.a. some years ago , that had to do with the w.t.

Splash

Everything they despise in one question.

Spending money, having to publicly acknowledge their guilt and being lumped in with Babylon the Great.

Oh please let it happen, and on a world wide scale!!

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What's the Worst Gossip You Heard About Why You were DF'ed, Faded or Left and Never Came Back? They say "I am gay!"

by PhilsWager2 in

your going to enjoy the latest rumor i heard why i have not been to meeting for around nine months, i am a homosexual!

i was caught having a drink at one of the gay bars for business, yes people still talk business in bars.

revelation 17:4).and murderers, and fornicators (cf.

Splash

It is inconceivable for someone to leave the JW's unless they are doing something evil.

When someone quits, the JW mindset simply has to assign some bad character trait, otherwise it becomes too difficult and confusing to comprehend.

A genuine, warm, intelligent person leaves the JW's?
No way! They were actually a closet homosexual drug taker, who has an apostate blog.