today is the day.. i was baptized as one of jehovah's witnesses on march 25th 1989.disfellowshipped for admitted apostasy today, september 10th 2015.. what an amazing story we all share.
how did we get involved with this group and think this was the best way of life?.
i asked my wife to stay home from the meeting tonight and spend the evening with me.she is.... we celebrated our 19th wedding anniversary this past monday.. i must admit, i never saw any of this coming, but it couldn't have come sooner.i'm free of all the fake friendships.
It's going to be very strange to start with, but in the long term you've done an amazing thing.
If you ever wonder whether you did the right thing or not, just read some of the posts on here about their crazy, forever changing rules and teachings, and the way they treat people.
Feel sorry for those still in, there's none so blind who will not see.
check his signature... it looks kind of childish/feminine (at least in my part of the world)... is this a grown man's signature for you?.
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=9d0ca1dc-1bd6-41c4-9cfc-b1d616d1cc65&type=exhibit&filename=stat.0670.001.0001&fileextension=pdf.
Issue number 2 has only one thing to defend it, the God's Love book from 2009 where it says
"In rare instances, one Christian might commit a serious crime against another--such as rape, assault,
murder, or major theft. In such cases, it would not be unchristian to report the matter to the authorities, even
though doing so might result in a court case or a criminal trial."
It's so rare, in fact, that it has never happened in 65 years.
The WT know how to print two sides to every story and cherry pick which reference best suits them when needed.
Of course they never mentioned:
*** w04 7/1 p. 30 Questions From Readers ***
Paul reprimands Christians for going to court “before unbelievers.” (1 Corinthians 6:6)
*** w01 8/15 p. 23 par. 13 Have Faith Like That of Abraham! ***
Abram’s example shows that it is better to suffer financial loss than to bring reproach upon Jehovah’s name or to damage the peace of the Christian congregation.
*** w91 10/1 p. 10 par. 7 Trust in Jehovah’s Saving Arm ***
Suppose you were associated with the first-century Corinth congregation. At one time, factions threatened its unity, and toleration of immorality endangered its spirit. Believers took one another to worldly courts, and some wrangled over various matters
*** w78 9/15 p. 13 par. 8 What Does Jehovah Require of You? ***
Also, [elders] may be called on to arrive at decisions concerning fellow believers who commit serious sins. (1 Cor. 6:1-6;
*** g79 3/8 p. 12 Living with Law—Now and Forever ***
But for handling most differences between Christians, men well grounded in Biblical principles are available in the congregations. They are even now helping many to resolve such matters without the public notice and consequent reproach of court action. In some cases Christian love may even move one to “suffer injury” rather than harm the good name of the congregation before those outside.
Not the most wealthy of congregations.
I don't think the WT will bother looking for buyers.
Morpheus respectfully, i wasnt soliciting comments on the individuals
Sorry about that, I meant to imply that she's the lone, odd female in the congregation, nothing about her appearance. It's bad enough being a female in the organisation, but being the only single one for miles is a life sentence!
at around 4 minutes into the september 2015 video splane said "for the man and the baby to be part of josephs generation they would have had to have lived at least some time during joseph's lifespan.".
this is the lynchpin of the wt argument, that two lives must overlap to be considered the same generation.. let's take an example of twins who are born just a few minutes apart.
obviously, these twins are the same generation as each other.
Speaking of the futility of ones life, Solomon said in Ecc 1:4 ".A generation is going, and a generation is coming, But the earth remains forever."
According to the WT, a generation is going, an overlapping generation is going, and a generation is coming.
Somewhere deep under the earth Solomon has raised his dusty, boney hand and face palmed a crumbling skull.
at around 4 minutes into the september 2015 video splane said "for the man and the baby to be part of josephs generation they would have had to have lived at least some time during joseph's lifespan.".
this is the lynchpin of the wt argument, that two lives must overlap to be considered the same generation.. let's take an example of twins who are born just a few minutes apart.
obviously, these twins are the same generation as each other.
OTWO They like using Freddy Franz in their example because he was "of age" in 1914 and lived until 1992
They speak about Freddy Franz as if he, on his own, constitutes a generation.
When his generation were all dead and gone and Freddy was the lone survivor, it's true to say that he was the last of his generation. It is not true to say that he defined the duration of a generation.
And don't forget, just like Russell's 'pyramid inches', the generation the WT talks about is an 'anointed generation'. This gives them the latitude to define it however they like because there's no such thing, it's something they themselves have made up.
at around 4 minutes into the september 2015 video splane said "for the man and the baby to be part of josephs generation they would have had to have lived at least some time during joseph's lifespan.".
this is the lynchpin of the wt argument, that two lives must overlap to be considered the same generation.. let's take an example of twins who are born just a few minutes apart.
obviously, these twins are the same generation as each other.
At eight minutes into the same video Splane reassures us "But here's the point. In 1914, who were the only ones who saw these various aspects of the sign and drew the right conclusion, that something invisible was occurring? Only the anointed."
Everyone on this board knows this is a lie.
NONE of the anointed in 1914 drew the right conclusion. They all drew the WRONG conclusion about 1914.
The anointed were not teaching that "something invisible was occurring" at all! How dare he lie so brazenly!
If 'the point' that Splane endeavours to make is entirely fabricated, then 'the point' is they have resorted to a false tongue to try to explain the unexplainable.
The more the GB speak, the more they expose their true wolfish character.
at around 4 minutes into the september 2015 video splane said "for the man and the baby to be part of josephs generation they would have had to have lived at least some time during joseph's lifespan.".
this is the lynchpin of the wt argument, that two lives must overlap to be considered the same generation.. let's take an example of twins who are born just a few minutes apart.
obviously, these twins are the same generation as each other.
At around 4 minutes into the September 2015 video Splane said "For the man and the baby to be part of Josephs generation they would have had to have lived at least some time during Joseph's lifespan."
This is the lynchpin of the WT argument, that two lives must overlap to be considered the same generation.
Let's take an example of twins who are born just a few minutes apart. Obviously, these twins are the same generation as each other. Then the twins grow to old age.
If a baby is born between the first twin dying and the second twin dying, that baby is not considered to be of the same generation as the first twin, only the second twin. That's just stupid.
Let's take the example that Splane used, Joseph and his brothers. These are the same generation as each other.
Joseph has an older brother. They grow old.
If a baby is born after Joseph dies, but before the older brother dies, the baby is said to be of the same generation as the older brother, but not the same generation as Joseph.
This is a nonsense. The baby's life overlaps with an older person than Joseph so how could this NOT be Joseph's generation too?
What Splane is doing is trying to obscure the distinction between a generation and contemporaries.
You can be of the same generation even if you are not contemporaries.
A child dies at the age of 8.
Another child is born the day after the first one dies.
They are not contemporaries but they are the same generation.
Splanes explanation above would have us believe they are not the same generation.
My brother is 50 years old. I am 40 years old.
If I die tomorrow and my nephew is born next week, my nephew is in the same generation as my brother, but not the same generation as me because our lives do not overlap, yet my life was within my older brothers generation.
Sorry GB, you need to try harder to explain the unexplainable because after years of effort and word twisting, it STILL does not make any sense.
in the 1980's when i was an elder, i don't remember the society providing any guidance to elders on suicide prevention counseling.
i realize much has changed since then.
can any current/recent elders update me on what the current position of the local elders would be if approached by someone in the congregation contemplating suicide and seeking help?.
In the elders training video, two elders tell her to repeat out loud "I am an integrity keeper" three times.
This voodoo obviously works because she then happily went to the kitchen to get drinks for the elders.
around the 39:00 minute mark the focus shifts to a single sister who cannot find a mate.
at the 42:30 minute mark she states "i cannot believe it crossed my mind...to look on jw dating sites".
guess a new unwritten rule is added to the many oral traditions of these pharisees.
