Posts by Splash

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Changed From "Disfellowshipped" to "No Longer One of Jehovah's Witnesses!

by Atlantis in

jw
friends

a friend is trying to figure out the approximate date or letter, which indicated a change from the wording of public announcements.. they changed from saying the person has been disfellowshipped to saying that a person was no longer one of jehovah's witnesses.. i thought it was around the time of the bulgaria scandal.. could you help us out to remember when this change took place?

if we could remember the approximate year, we could look up all the boe's for that year and might find the letter.. many thanks!.

atlantis!.

Splash

Oh yes, they used to announce the reason:

w54 10/1 p. 595 par. 17 Christians Live the Truth
If announcements are made to congregations concerning someone who refuses to pay debts or who is going around taking money or other things from individuals in the congregation, the congregation servant should be the one to make the announcement and he should be careful to avoid wording something in a slanderous way but merely report the facts as they exist or that a person has been disfellowshiped for dishonesty or fraud. Then those who are in the congregation can be aware of what is going on and will be able to protect their own interests and the interests of their brothers. "His wickedness shall be openly showed before the assembly."

So the above article suggests that even after someone had been DF'd they were still able to continue interactions with the congregation.

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Publisher's Record Cards

by Faded4good in

jw
friends

okay, i haven't been to a meeting in over 17 years and i don't live anywhere near the place i grew up.

i have had minimal contact with my jw family, essentially just occasional phone conversations.

i think they could easily guess that i'm inactive but they pretend not to know and they've never shunned me.

Splash

If your mother finds out and threatens to shun you, point out that you've not been to a meeting in 17 years and during that time you have not done anything 'apostate' to endanger her, neither will you do so in the future.

If she realizes that you are not the danger that the WT portray you to be she may yet be reasonable.

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The Myth of being "Spirit Appointed"

by BluesBrother in

back in the first century we read that the apostles would "lay their hands" on someone and the holy spirit would be imparted to that one.

appointments of older men were made in this way - at that time.

in modern times the wts has claimed that their own elders ,min.

Splash

“gifts in men” include... ministerial servants.

We had a brother baptised and later appointed as a Ministerial Servant all the while he was secretly sexually abusing a child in the congregation.
Just explain how Holy Spirit works again?
Isn’t it the unforgivable sin to blaspheme the Holy Spirit?

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Latest awake on JW.org

by aboveusonlysky in

the latest awake (no 3 2020) on jw.org is just breathtaking, it's about prejudice and gives the following 3 examples which i will one by one attemp to debunk.. awake - some employers have mistakenly believed that women are unqualified for scientific or technical jobs.. erm... women are not only forbidden from elder or m/s appointment, they're not even considered qualified enough to adjust the height of a brother's microphone, you were saying?.....

awake - in medieval europe, jews were falsely accused of poisoning wells and spreading disease.

during nazi rule, jews were again slandered.

Splash

Just to add to your first comment:

Awake - Some employers have mistakenly believed that women are unqualified for scientific or technical jobs.

Golden Age (previous name of Awake!) 1937 27/1 p.259-260
"God made man to perform the most intricate and difficult tasks in life; his wife to be a help, suitable to her less exacting sphere. It is no reflection upon the fair sex to record the simple truth that the finest surgical work is done by men. ... At Sanford, Maine, is a factory for the making of the finest, most costly, most luxurious velvets... No woman has ever been able to qualify for the job."

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F. W. Franz epic talk May 11, 1975 (clip)

by lastmanstanding in

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1vwxeenkkoary-efyhnt75iqmagx0yywf.

f. w. franz "times in which we are particularly interested" may 11, 1975. ;introduced by kenneth a. little, a much younger man than now for sure.. the clip is 8 minutes.. unfortunately, some idiot recorded over part of this day many years ago.

i am hoping to find another copy in the box..

Splash

Some more clips in the 1975 document Here

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Waco Mini-Series on Netflix. Powerful and Scary.

by Simon in

so we binge-watched the waco mini-series on netflix.. wow, what a powerful and enlightening programme!

even if you think you know what happened, it gives you extra context to it all.

it's very well done even if you just want a great drama series, but it's way more than that.. there are of course some dramatization and slight historical inaccuracies for the purpose of story-telling but it was very informative.

Splash

Simon - The one thing I hate about Netflix is how everything is regionalized. That and the auto-play of previews.

You can turn off auto preview in the settings!

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Zoom and JW.org working together.

by skin in

who is hosting who here?.

https://jworg.zoom.us/.

our kh zoom meeting invites are now coming in from jw.org, but are still hosted by the local elders.

Splash

I found that adding a couple of entries into the routers blacklist stopped all the privacy concerns.

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Reel to reel tapes and old Watchtower literature

by lastmanstanding in

it's been an emotional few weeks going through old watchtower literature, i mean old.

i have saved many things, some you have never seen.

particularly related to 1975, i have wts literature, even a big newspaper article about the 1975 prediction.. today, i started going through the reel to reel tapes.

Splash

It sounds like you struck gold!!

Can’t wait to hear this.

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"Jehovah's Witnesses Ever-Changing Teachings"

by Doug Mason in

“jehovah's witnesses' ever-changing teachings: the most important changes in the doctrine of the watchtower society in the year 1879-2015” by włodzimierz bednarski and szymon matusiak..

https://www.amazon.com/dp/b084p2dxl1.

Splash

Similar to that book I spent some time compiling a list myself which I shared a few years back.

Take a look at how WT can never make up their minds on just about every teaching they ever had. I’ve put the flip-flop document in here for posterity

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Reel to reel tapes and old Watchtower literature

by lastmanstanding in

it's been an emotional few weeks going through old watchtower literature, i mean old.

i have saved many things, some you have never seen.

particularly related to 1975, i have wts literature, even a big newspaper article about the 1975 prediction.. today, i started going through the reel to reel tapes.

Splash

The ones I found I isolated and put into a word document.

Feel free to have a look at it in here