i am sure we have all seen the recent letter to the boe concerning the change that will take place to the meeting arrangement during the week of the co visit.
to recap the basics: the meeting that usually contains the cong bible study (book study) and a co talk will be discontinued, publishers are encouraged to use their family worship night that week to cover book study material.. so here is a point that i think has been missed, or not even considered:.
if that particular meeting is hereby deleted from the schedule, the co and his wife will never ever have to participate in or go to another "book study", or "bible study" night again.
The CO's do love to work alongside the factory workers (publishers).
How else will they get ammunition to hammer the elders with?
It is by the CO going on the ministry with your average joe publisher that the elders are kept in a state of anguish over what the CO may hear.
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just heard from an elder.
he told me that there is another change to be announced in august.
he didn't know more about it.. any other info?.
BluePill2 "lift up a standard for the people"
A standard is a flag.
This will be the directive for every kingdom hall to display the jworg banner on the outside of the building, much like they have in NY.
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information on how to download the 1928 messenger in pdf will be given at the bottom of this post.. the messenger was the name given by the watchtower society for an occasional watchtower publication that reviewed conventions for bible students/jehovah's witnesses in the 1920s to 1940s.
there were issues published for (not a complete list) 1928, 1931, 1938 and a couple other years.
(perhaps someone else could give a complete list for us?
To complement Leolaia's photo on page 2, who's this sat next to Van Amburgh's wife?
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a couple of days ago in town i met a jw guy i have known since he was a kid in diapers, he is now an elder and must be 40 yrs old, still a kid to me, though.. he gave me the spiel about "we would love to see you come back " , i said that i could not come back to the religion i had left as it no longer existed (a line i got from my friend bill), this elder replied that there "had been changes, but the basics remain the same".. i just was not quick enough with this one, i just sort of nodded at that and went on about what i simply could not swallow as "truth".
overlapping generation etc etc.. what he was meaning by the basics being the same is that nothing has changed on the "what jw's don't believe in" front, i.e trinity, immortal soul etc.
the reality it is that the basics of jw/wt teachings about what they do believe in have all changed !.
For every teaching that has stayed the same, I can name another 5 that have changed.
Or, for every teaching that has stayed the same, I can name another one which has changed 5 times!
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i'm extremely neutral in our house, so it's not my influence - honest!.
my 11-year old is light-years advanced with his intelligence and humour.. he's going around the house singing "listen, obey, and be castrated.".
was not impressed.. pretty hard to contain my laughter..
Very funny kaik!
"Listen, Obey and Donate"
"But God's people never pass the plate"
"If you give everything, God will feel great"
"Listen, Obey and Donate"
Lolz
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waisted days and waisted nites.. freddy fender..
Erasure's "Joan"
Blind vision, Blind faith
You really can be sold If you dare to disagree
It's just not within the scheme of things
To give up your life so easily
That's not the way you're meant to be
What a waste of time and energy...
Blind vision, Blind faith
You really can't rely On what they tell you for effect
It's just not within the scheme of things
To give up your life so easily
That's not the way you're meant to be
What a waste of time and energy
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the article addressed luke 20:34-36 and now they finally admit jesus could have been referring to the heavenly resurrection.
they said "put simply, the answer is that we cannot say" which is surprising because they have something to say about everything.
perhaps all the old people who are waiting the new world as widow and widowers want to know if they have a chance to be reunited with their dead loved one.
In Luke 20:27-33 the sadducees posed a situation about a woman who had many husbands, one after the other, then asked Jesus "Who will she be married to in the new system?"
According to this latest teaching from the WT, Jesus didn't actually answer their question but talked about something else altogether different.
First instance of Theocratic Warefare?
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the article addressed luke 20:34-36 and now they finally admit jesus could have been referring to the heavenly resurrection.
they said "put simply, the answer is that we cannot say" which is surprising because they have something to say about everything.
perhaps all the old people who are waiting the new world as widow and widowers want to know if they have a chance to be reunited with their dead loved one.
@Designer Stubble
My favourite verse for these constantly changing teachings is Galatians 2:18:
"For if the very things that I once threw down I build up again, I demonstrate myself to be a transgressor."
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jehovah's witnesses to hand over top-secret manualon friday finland's jehovah's witnesses will give their religious rule book to the minister of justice and the minister of the interior so that it can be inspected to ensure that it's in line with finnish rule of law.
jehovah's witnesses will hand over their secret rule book to the minister of justice, anna-maja henriksson, and the minister of the interior, paivi rasanen.
image: heikki saukkomaa / lehtikuva until now, only senior members of the jehovahs witnesses committee have had access to the congregation's secret book of rules.. the disciplinary activities of the jehovah's witnesses committee have been criticised for violating human rights.. according to anna-maja henriksson, finland's minister of justice, the purpose of the handover is to examine the book and determine whether its rules and regulations run counter to finnish law.. henriksson and interior minister paivi rasanen met on thursday with the leadership of the jehovah's witnesses in helsinki.
Of course, the Minister of Justice will not receive all of the hand written notes that every elder is instructed to add into their books during elder schools and from CO's letters when they visit.
Very clever - they pre-empted this already.
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the article addressed luke 20:34-36 and now they finally admit jesus could have been referring to the heavenly resurrection.
they said "put simply, the answer is that we cannot say" which is surprising because they have something to say about everything.
perhaps all the old people who are waiting the new world as widow and widowers want to know if they have a chance to be reunited with their dead loved one.
The story so far...
YES - 1943 “The Truth Shall Make You Free” p.362 - 364
[Evil ones] will not come forth [in the resurrection] to take part in the divine mandate [filing the earth], because that will have been completed by the Lord's "other sheep".
NO - w50 10/15 p. 381 “Be Fruitful, Multiply, Fill the Earth”
Nor will the resurrected multitudes be privileged to do so, for Jesus plainly stated that such will not marry nor be given in marriage
Even survivors won't marry - w54 9/15 p. 575 Questions From Readers
After that final test there will definitely be no marrying or being given in marriage then by those counted worthy of the new world and having the right to eternal life, just as angels have that right
YES - w54 9/15 p. 575 Questions From Readers
It is even reasonable and allowable to entertain the comforting thought that those of the other sheep who now die faithful will have an early resurrection and live during the time when the procreation mandate is being fulfilled and when paradise conditions are being spread earth-wide and that they will share in this divinely given service.
NO - w61 11/15 p. 704 Questions From Readers
for dead ones with spiritual, heavenly hopes and for dead ones with earthly Paradisaic hopes the rule enunciated by Jesus Christ stands unaltered: “In the resurrection neither do men marry nor are women given in marriage
NO - w67 10/15 p. 638 Questions From Readers
Jesus’ words apply to the earthly resurrection, and they indicate that those resurrected will not marry or be reunited in a marriage relationship with former mates.
YES / MAYBE - w14 8/1 page 29+30, questions from readers
"Could Jesus be referring only to the heavenly resurrection?" "It is possible"
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