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  I have a serious problem

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

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  i have a serious problem that i cannot solve on my own.

  i was born-in but am only in by a thread at this point.

  i quit the tms a few weeks ago and wrote a post on it.

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  If you speak with any elder, make sure you take a second along to witness it, and record it all.
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  Age of "governing body" members

  by MacHislopp in

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  carey barber ..................b 1905. lyman swingle.................b 1910. albert schroeder.............. b 1911. john barr ..................... b 1913. daniel sydlik...................b 1919. milton henschel ...............b 1920. theodore jaracz...............b 1924. and.

  guy pierce .....................b 1934 (b.

  1 year before end of h.c.)*.

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  I Should Have Just Kept Avoiding Their Videos

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  i have a 2011 new year resolution to avoid reading jw literature or watch their videos.i am not "religious" about it, and will watch/read excerpts, but pretty much stick with that resolution as it only angers me when i read the stuff.. well, someone posted their video of philippines disaster relief due to a 2013 typhoon as a response to a news article to demonstrate that they are not really helping and that it is just propaganda.

  i watched the video and was immediately able to see what the hell is wrong with jw's and their leadership and, as i figured- i was angered.. so i will post this link, but then go back to not watching/reading.

  it just isn't worth it.. in the video, when they knew the storm was coming, the pre-planned disaster relief people texted elders to warn them to evacuate.

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  The video says at 2:40 "Before the storm hit, the Philippines Branch office began coordinating the evacuation and relief efforts.'We are preparing for the typhoon because the news said that we need to prepare, so I text everybody, every elder...' (- Rodnie Barcenas Circuit Overseer)."

  So yes, the branch knew the typhoon was coming, they planned the evacuations (to kingdom halls?), instructed the CO's, and made sure all elders and congregations were informed of what to do.

  Cedars covered this very well at the time. He calculates some figures:
  "According to the 2014 Yearbook, the population of the Philippines is 97,701,745. And according to this new video (and official figures), Typhoon Haiyan claimed the lives of 6,200. That is a mortality rate of 0.0063% for the country.

  By comparison, Watchtower claims to have 185,000 Witnesses in the Philippines. When we include all those presumed dead with the confirmed figures, this gives us a mortality rate of 0.024% among Witnesses for Typhoon Haiyan – nearly four times the previously stated figure."

  If you're interested in this topic it is worth reading.
  jwsurvey - Philippines video
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  Why attack?

  by newqatarjob in

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  as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!

  ) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.

  i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.

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  Aw. WhenInDoubt got banned :-(
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  Beads and Tight Jeans APPROVED Service Attire For a Brother?

  by sparky1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  many, many, many posters here have wondered what happened to the religion that they were raised in or baptized into 20 or more years ago.

  i just got the shock of my life on jw(dot) org.tv!

  there is a video testimonial of an american indian witness that was inactive for many years and has now begun to preach again.

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  No, beards are still bad.

  In this weeks WT study there's a cartoon style picture with a brother being tempted out for an after-work drink.

  You guessed it, one of his tempting colleagues had a beard.

  Beard = Bad.
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  Spiritual manifestations after 1881?

  by Splash in

  1. watchtower
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  wt dec 1880 (no.

  6) p. 5 "false christs".

  "we have reason for believing that after 1881, there will be wonderful spiritual manifestations.

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  WT Dec 1880 (No. 6) p. 5 "False Christs"

  "We have reason for believing that after 1881, there will be wonderful spiritual manifestations. The prince of the power of the air...[Devil and his angels]--The rulers of the darkness of this world [wicked spirits--] will now make a last great effort previous to their binding, at which time these powers will be subdued.

  Those angels which kept not their first estate God hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. They were cast down to hell. ("Tartarus" lower atmosphere--our air.) For 6000 years these spiritual powers have been deceiving and misleading mankind.

  These like the good angels, have also had power to appear as men, but they must always appear in the dark, for God had placed them under darkness."
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  Falling asleep at the meeting

  by JakeM2012 in

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  this brings back memories.. https://instagram.com/p/0n8sxirizd/.

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  https://instagram.com/p/0n8sxirizd/?taken-by=marcusastanley.

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  I felt the same way during those super long and totally unfollowable resolutions.

  "We Resolve..... snoooooze...... CLAP CLAP CLAP!".

  "Can we go now?"
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  It's starting shunning will stop brochure first.step

  by poopie in

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  i'm in contact with service and writing and brochure first step there bleeding publishers they can't take it anymore publishers are depressed because they feel they must shun others and they know it's unloving.

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  I'm in contact with service and writing and brochure first step there bleeding publishers they can't take it anymore publishers are depressed because they feel they must shun others and they know it's unloving.
  

  I'll translate:
  "It's starting! Shunning will stop - brochure is first step.

  I'm in contact with the service and writing dept's, and this new brochure is the first step. The publishers can't take it anymore. Publishers are depressed because they feel they must shun others and they know it's unloving."

  My view is that the new brochure to reach out to those that have left comes from the realisation that increase has all but stopped, and the only audience never previously targeted are those who have gone. They have haemorrhaged millions of people over the last few decades and now want their donations.

  Another thread on this topic said the new brochure is really for those already 'in', to show how much the GB care for the lost sheep. I think that's a very valid position as well.

  I can see elders being ordered into a special effort in every congregation, checked by the CO, to contact every one who ever used to be a JW.

  In response, ex-JW's should be aware of this and use it as an opportunity to expose these elders to TTATT. Find something in the brochure to discuss that sheds light on the falsehoods and danger of the Org - maybe even the scriptural view of shunning itself.
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  Can you discredit "wait on jehovah to fix all evil" elder's padded line even told to victims of pedophiles?

  by PokerPlayerPhil in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am sick of being told this same crap after decades of suffering at the hands of wicked men and women, how many of you have had to fight these irrational expectations we are supposed to grin and smile when people are actively trying to screw with us and elders say .

  good it is that one should wait, even silently, for the salvation of jehovah (lamentations 3:26; titus 2:13).

  my life in the organization has not been entirely bad, there were many good people and plenty of jerks like you all experienced in this adventure we call life.

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  I would ask them "What do you mean 'Wait for Jehovah'?"

  You mentioned in your OP Titus 2:13 "while we wait for the happy hope and glorious manifestation of the great God and of our Savior, Jesus Christ."

  This is referring to waiting for Armageddon to come. Ask them "Are you expecting me to wait for Armageddon to come before this will get sorted out?" If they say "No" then ask them what they mean and can they show you a scripture to validate that waiting is in fact the correct thing to do. Discount anything from the Hebrew scriptures - that was replaced by the NT (Col 2:14).

  Tell them that you're going to do better than just idly wait, you're going to "Listen to Jehovah" and take some action.

  Jehovah tells us what to do through his word, not through the GB.
  If we are aware that something is wrong, that's because our Bible trained perception has identified something that needs doing ("go on perceiving what the will of Jehovah is" Eph 5:17)

  At the end of the day, this throw away phrase is an excuse to do nothing.
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  Russell and Jehovah's Name

  by vinman in

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  2. beliefs

  i'm pretty new here.

  but i have a question.

  the kingdom rules!

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  Between 1879 (when the WT was first printed) and 1916 (when he died) CTR used the name "Jehovah" 2241 times in the WT magazine.

  This doesn't include the Golden Age references, or any of his books.