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  Regarding not being viewed negatively when one fades.. An experiment?

  by disposable hero of hypocrisy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in joe134cd's recent thread, he mentioned the myth that apparently one should be able to fade or become inactive without repercussions from the community.

  he mentioned about the 'dropping-you-like-a-hot-potato' phenomenon from social media sites, even when you've not told anybody why you're not coming any more.. i propose that it may be good to record such a phenomenon when it occurs so that this lie can be readily rebuffed.

  i'm not out yet, but when i do, i shall be only to willing to record the response on social media sites.

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  If they don't drop you they will hassle you to come back.

  Better they cut and run.
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  GEOFFREY JACKSON TO APPEAR BEFORE ROYAL COMMISSION ON FRIDAY 14TH August!!!

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the royal commissions public hearing into the jehovahs witnesses will recommence in sydney on friday 14 august 2015 at 11:00am.. it is anticipated that the hearing will hear from one witness, mr geoffrey jackson, a member of the governing body of jehovahs witnesses.. .

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  www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/2015-08/public-hearing-into-the-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witnesses-to-rec.

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  I don't believe that the principled men we've seen run the RC would succumb to bribery. If there is anything underhand being planned then it will be a sudden announcement that GJ's father has taken a bad turn and GJ has to leave immediately. However if this happens then I'd like to see proceedings suspended until another day in the near future.

  As we speak GJ will be preparing his statement with the help of his lawyers (probably New York lawyers after Tooles performance) and will be briefed on get out phrases, how to limit his perceived involvement etc.

  I'm not expecting any great revelations from GJ but it will be good to see him face questioning - it might just bring him back down to earth a bit, to be answerable to some who do not fawn at his every passing of gas.

  I predict he will fend off the easy questions, and when cornered will say that he'll make sure things get reviewed. Of course this is a fob off since reviewing something means nothing will change..

  For me it will just be good to make him acknowledge how harmful and inadequate his procedures are, realise that he is still accountable to the laws of the land, and that he isn't yet the all wise, all knowing, all powerful deity that he someday expects to become.
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  "And what happened next was simply unbelievable!"

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i always sit in the same spot, just outside starbucks in a vestibule area with a table in the air-conditioned space.

  i say "always," but not today.. somebody with two laptops and a table filled with business ledgers was in "my" favorite spot!.

  so, i took a tiny wooden table inside the coffee shop on a long padded bench next to 3 other identical tables.. as the clickbait banner ads like to say: "and what happened next was simply unbelievable!".

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  Captivating Terry, I was right there on the next table watching.

  Don't feel bad, they were blasting Catholics.

  It's their topic of conversation as they leave, and personal research later.
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  What is their official explanation for not allowing beards?

  by keyser soze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i ask because my gf, who knows all about my jw upbringing, convinced me to grow a goatee, just to see how it looks.

  we both decided it looked good so i decided to keep it.

  i tried to explain to her that as a jw, i wasn't allowed to grow one, but then drew a blank when she asked me why.

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  Not just back in Rutherford's time either.

  (1986) Worldwide Security under the Prince of Peace (picture) p.164:
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  What is their official explanation for not allowing beards?

  by keyser soze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i ask because my gf, who knows all about my jw upbringing, convinced me to grow a goatee, just to see how it looks.

  we both decided it looked good so i decided to keep it.

  i tried to explain to her that as a jw, i wasn't allowed to grow one, but then drew a blank when she asked me why.

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  Splash

  A study made great progress.
  Over a period of years he came to all the meetings, joined the TMS, wanted to go out on the ministry.

  Elders took him in the back room and said he had to lose the well groomed and dignified beard.

  Study quit associating - never seen again. True story.

  To the elders, enforcing an unwritten rule beyond their jurisdiction was more important than saving a soul.

  BTW, how many 1,000's of hours does it take to bring in just one convert?
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  What is their official explanation for not allowing beards?

  by keyser soze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i ask because my gf, who knows all about my jw upbringing, convinced me to grow a goatee, just to see how it looks.

  we both decided it looked good so i decided to keep it.

  i tried to explain to her that as a jw, i wasn't allowed to grow one, but then drew a blank when she asked me why.

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  Splash

  In the '70s there was a WT which mentioned beards in the same sentence as hippies.

  In the 2010's there was a WT which correlated beards with pirates.

  No-one wants to be a hippy pirate, so beards are banned.

  Actually there has never been a letter, publication or rule to say you can't have a beard.
  The nearest they come to formalising it is if you are a convention speaker then you can't have one.
  Read the Theocratic School book and it just talks about being neat and clean.
  Every ruling at a congregation level comes from an implied reading of disapproval from the WT's that I mentioned above.
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  Gross hypocrisy in September 15, 2015 Watchtower

  by Island Man in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ask any jw the question "why do jehovah's witnesses impose their views on others?

  we do not impose our views on anyone!".

  do you impose your views on others?

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  Splash

  Haha! If I'd thought it might get shared I would've taken more care putting it together.

  It's so very obviously photoshopped lol.
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  GEOFFREY JACKSON TO APPEAR BEFORE ROYAL COMMISSION ON FRIDAY 14TH August!!!

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the royal commissions public hearing into the jehovahs witnesses will recommence in sydney on friday 14 august 2015 at 11:00am.. it is anticipated that the hearing will hear from one witness, mr geoffrey jackson, a member of the governing body of jehovahs witnesses.. .

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  www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/2015-08/public-hearing-into-the-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witnesses-to-rec.

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  Splash

  You might want to post this on some prominent Catholic forums too:

  "Watch a Jehovah's Witness pope defend their teachings on child abuse to a government Royal Commission inquiry. Live on TV!" (plus link).

  Karma's a bitch.
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  Gross hypocrisy in September 15, 2015 Watchtower

  by Island Man in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ask any jw the question "why do jehovah's witnesses impose their views on others?

  we do not impose our views on anyone!".

  do you impose your views on others?

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  Branch Manual 2015

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  apparently the backroom arguments have been heard and decided.

  the royal commission finally uploaded a redacted version of the 2015 branch manual.

  watchtower lawyers were looking to have as much redacted from this manual as possible.

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  Splash

  P. 138 Submitting Articles [for the wt/Awake]
  Do not submit material for publication that might cause difficulty for our brothers locally or elsewhere. Many things can be written that will not hurt our work and may even engender goodwill. The truth should be presented, of course, but in a tactful way.