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  Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

  by notsurewheretogo in

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  the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

  " in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

  is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

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  w2010 4/15 p. 9 par. 12 "Holy Spirit's Role in the Outworking of Jehovah's Purpose"
  Jehovah uses his spirit to lead his organization in the direction that he wants it to go.

  w2017/2 p. 26 par. 12 "Who is Leading Gods People Today?"
  The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in [...] organizational direction.

  The above two WT quotations are mutually exclusive, so which one is true and which one is a lie?

  1. Does God lead the organization or does the GB?
  2. Is the organization spirit lead or not?
  
  
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  Selloff Hinted At Assembly

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the last talk at the assembly made an interesting statement, "we can show faith by following direction if we're asked to move to another kingdom hall for better use of dedicated christian funds".

  this statement has everyone talking.

  i spoke to multiple individuals and they heard the same thing at different assembly's.. i know they have been "evaluating" all kingdom halls the last year or two.

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  Seems that Dedicated Kingdom Funds are more important than Dedicated Kingdom Halls.
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  Spain: A group of elder requires clarification to Ministry of Justice regarding sexual molestors

  by sp74bb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  letter sent today to the ministry of justice... .

  spain bethel sent a letter recently last oct 3 interpreting that no elder or sm should request a certificate of sexual offenses as other churches or persons in contact with kids.

  again jw.org interprets the law to their behalf.. a group of elders in madrid has sent this letter to ask clarification !!.

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  Will be interesting to see who in the Spanish bethel suddenly gets assigned abroad, and which elders decide to stand down "for family reasons".
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  “Sing Out Joyfully” to Jehovah

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  borg link warning: “sing out joyfully” to jehovah.

  non-borg pdf mirror: “sing out joyfully” to jehovah.

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  Thanks Darkspilver!

  This is a brilliant song to play around the fire at Christmas time when my JW folks visit!
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  More money-grubbing: Give us your money even if you can't afford food

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the message would appear to be that jehovah needs money more than that old lady needs food:.

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  Spiral A couple of years ago she was asked to make another large contribution
  

  I thought God's organisation never begged or petitioned for donations.
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  More money-grubbing: Give us your money even if you can't afford food

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the message would appear to be that jehovah needs money more than that old lady needs food:.

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  The WT completely miss the point of this account.

  Both versions of the needy widow in Lu 21 and Ma 12 start with Jesus giving a warning to his disciples who are about to witness the widow making herself destitute. Jesus says "Beware of the scribes... they devour the houses of the widows".

  Continuing, he sits his disciples down near the treasury chests to demonstrate what he means.
  The poor widow comes by and puts in everything she has - "she, out of her want, put in everything she had, all she had to live on".

  How can this be commendable?
  She is the centre of Jesus lesson on how not to be like the scribes who demand too much, even from those who can least afford it. We know how Jesus felt about the self-important, self serving scribes and pharisees. The GB are just the modern day equivalent, equal in their delusion and cruelty.
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  More money-grubbing: Give us your money even if you can't afford food

  by bohm in

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  2. friends

  the message would appear to be that jehovah needs money more than that old lady needs food:.

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  Health problems: That is no excuse to miss meetings, even if you have to bring your medical equipment
  (Philippians 4:5) Let your reasonableness become known to all men.

  Wayward children: Kick them out and carry on like nothing happened
  (John 13:34) I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another

  Low finances: Giving to a multi billion dollar organisation is more important than having food in your cupboard.(James 1:27) The form of worship that is clean and undefiled from the standpoint of our God and Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their tribulation

  (2 Corinthians 12:14) for the children are not expected to save up for their parents, but the parents for their children

  
  

  The GB have lost the plot. The stuff they come out with these days is unbelievable even for those who expect craziness. Their angry, disdainful view of the flock is so clear, the congregations exist to serve and provide for the GB and nothing more.

  (2 Timothy 3:1-5) But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers... having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power; and from these turn away.

  (1 John 3:10, 11) The children of God and the children of the Devil are evident by this fact: Whoever does not practice righteousness does not originate with God, nor does the one who does not love his brother.
  
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  What would be the perfect song to introduce a JW comedy sketch?

  by usualusername1 in

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  i have no idea.... .

  any ideas will help.... .

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  Unknown but a good fit.

  http://genius.com/Hop-along-the-knock-lyrics
  
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  Trying to find WT

  by Life is to short 2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am trying to find the wt that says we have to obey the gb even when what they say makes no sense.. i think it was 4 year's ago.

  i know it was just mentioned in a thread and i have looked but just cannot find it.

  i want to show it to my counselor this afternoon.. thanks i'm advance if anyone can find it..

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  Latest incident of this.

  w16 Feb p.11-12 Para 14 "Jehovah called him My Friend"

  What about us? True, God does not make such requests of us today. But he does ask us to obey him even when his commands are hard for us to comply with or we cannot comprehend the reasons for them.
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  J.W.'s Interfaith Hypocrisy

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  w02 10/15 p. 27 questions from readers - "would it be a form of interfaith to purchase a building from another religious group and convert it into a kingdom hall?

  "generally, jehovah’s witnesses avoid such dealings with other religions.

  except when cash clarifies their thinking!.

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  Flip flop alert...

  OK TO RE-USE RELIGIOUS BUILDINGS FOR K.HALLS?

  YES: -- w02 10/15 p. 27 Questions From Readers
  Would it be a form of interfaith to purchase a building from another religious group and convert it into a Kingdom Hall?
  [Picture on page 27] This building, which was a synagogue, was purchased and renovated into a Kingdom Hall

  NO: -- w99 3/15 p. 24 Building on Pagan Foundation
  AMONG the many impressive monuments that are visited by tourists to Rome, Italy, is the Pantheon. The Pantheon was originally a pagan temple, a "place for all gods," which is the meaning of the original Greek word. Today, it is still considered a Roman Catholic church.
  It ought to be obvious, however, that changing the dedication of a temple or the name of a celebration is not sufficient to transform the 'worship of devils into the service of the true God.' "What agreement does God's temple have with idols?" asked the apostle Paul. "'Get out from among them, and separate yourselves,' says Jehovah, 'and quit touching the unclean thing'

  YES: -- g96 9/8 p. 31 Why the Chapels Are Closing
  The list serves as an epitome of the collapse of religion's influence, not only in Wales but in many parts of Europe. Sixty-eight chapels were listed as "now demolished." One that was not listed, in Penygraig, was converted many years ago into a Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses for the flourishing Rhondda Congregation.