There's a sad irony when someone who believes everything he reads tells you not to believe everything you read.
Posts by Splash
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21So today this happened...
by Phoebe inyou all pretty much know my story so i won't repeat it but.... to say i'm being hounded by my local congregation is an understatement.
today the cobe finally found us in.
well, i refused to answer the door but my husband did.
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Now Scottish history disproves the flood
by Splash inwt state that the global flood that wiped everything away happened in 2370 bce.. there's been a wealth of evidence from many quarters which prove that life continued as normal for civilizations during that time period.. now scotland adds to that body of evidence as detailed in this bbc report:.
neolithic orkney - new study.
key dates indicated by the study.
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Splash
WT state that the global flood that wiped everything away happened in 2370 BCE.
There's been a wealth of evidence from many quarters which prove that life continued as normal for civilizations during that time period.
Now Scotland adds to that body of evidence as detailed in this BBC report:
Key dates indicated by the study
- Orkney was probably first colonised in 3600 BC
- Settlement peaked in the period 3100-2900 BC
- There was a phase of decline 2800-2600 BC, measured by the number of stone houses in use
- Settlement resumed in 2600-2300 BC, and it could have been about this time that the Ring of Brodgar itself was erected.
The evidence keeps rolling in.
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JW critically injured after being electrocuted in assembly hall
by Anders Andersen ina newspaper reports that in bornem, belgium, a jw volunteer was critically injured after being electrocuted:.
bornem - a man was electrocuted while performing maintenance on a high voltage installation in the assembly hall of jw in bornem friday afternoon.
the man was critically injured.. possibly the man, who is a volunteer with the jw, tried to clean the installation with a vacuum cleaner.
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Splash
Belgium is the heart of EU bureaucracy, I'm certain there will be an inquest.
Hopefully they will inspect the rest of the building and the operating procedures too. This is another opportunity for God's organisation to be improved by Satan's more caring system.
The victim was transported to a hospital in Sint-Niklaas.
I find it ironic that he was treated at Father Christmas' hospital.
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JWs MUST Accept The Watchtower Teachings EVEN When They Are Wrong!
by minimus inisn't it unbelievable that a jehovah's witness must accept whatever the organization says or they can be disfellowshipped??
unless they tell you that their understanding has changed, you cannot believe anything unless they say it's ok. .
many years ago i questioned them about their ridiculous view that whenever the word "heart" was mentioned, it was a literal blood filled organ.
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Splash
Fisherman Who has the authority to determine whether or not any WT teaching is wrong?
You don't need authority to do that, just a little bit of common sense and honesty.
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Pioneers Living With Married Couple
by msecodo inso ... situation:.
a baptized married couple, with no privileges that we know of, have opened their home to 2 unmarried regular pioneers because of the pioneers' financial issues (limited income).. - husband works from home.
- wife doesn't work and stays home or in service.
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Splash
Drearyweather I think the rumors could be true.
Spoken like a true JW.
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Need help with a reference dealing with the Generations and SPLAINE
by ttdtt inwhen originally explaining the "new generations" splaine used the example of joseph and his brothers.. he backed up the time difference between the original anointed, and the new ones by using what he said was a big age difference between the youngest "joseph" and his oldest brothers.. then more recently in a jw broadcast - he said that there was not a big age difference between joseph and his oldest brother.. can any one help me find both those, please?.
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Splash
This thread references one of the items you are trying to source:
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/459280022/deconstructing-splanes-generation-explanation
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The special talk is now BEFORE the Memorial
by wifibandit inaugust 11, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: 2018 memorial invitations and date of special talk .
fyi:.
the 2018 memorial will be held on saturday, march 31, 2018.. the 2019 memorial will be held on friday, april 19, 2019..
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Splash
So it's a "special" campaign is it?
Special, special, special. Everything is special.
Special pioneers! Mmm, yes, they're special.
Special assembly days! Super special!
Now you can be special too by joining this special campaign.
Considering every other public talk feels the need to give a "dictionary definition" of some word everyone already understands, they should take another look at what it means to have something that's special.
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Getting your WT files deleted (UK)
by Splash inthe uk are tightening up their data protection laws to make it easier for individuals to get hold of the information organisations hold on them and to get it deleted.. i think paul grundy (jwfacts) went through this with wt once and found it very time consuming and difficult.. will wt now abide by the law and hand over or permanently delete the records it keeps when requested?it would mean every uk exjw could have their report card info, personal file with age, sex, baptism date, judicial information, appointment/deletion/disfellowshipping dates, letters of disassociation, letters of recommendation when you move, phone number and address permanently removed.
anyone acting for the wt (elders) who retain this information, eg your phone number in their phone or the secretary keeping your historical monthly report details, will be in violation.
failure to comply will incur a fine.. expect a letter to all boe's any time soon explaining why this does not apply to them.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40826062.
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Splash
The UK are tightening up their data protection laws to make it easier for individuals to get hold of the information organisations hold on them and to get it deleted.
I think Paul Grundy (jwfacts) went through this with WT once and found it very time consuming and difficult.
Will WT now abide by the law and hand over or permanently delete the records it keeps when requested?
It would mean every UK exJW could have their report card info, personal file with age, sex, baptism date, judicial information, appointment/deletion/disfellowshipping dates, letters of disassociation, letters of recommendation when you move, phone number and address permanently removed. Anyone acting for the WT (elders) who retain this information, eg your phone number in their phone or the secretary keeping your historical monthly report details, will be in violation. Failure to comply will incur a fine.Expect a letter to all BOE's any time soon explaining why this does not apply to them.
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opportunity for fornication
by road to nowhere inever see brother ugly who is 86 being taken to the doctor by sister frigid who is 65 and also not good looking?
they have to have a chaperone or at least sit in back and front seats.
or a man who can't bring the freezing daughter in the house when he stopped briefly by because hubby is not home.
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Splash
I once took an older sister out on field service in my car.
She went to get in the back seat.
I told her to get in the front or walk - I'm not a taxi. She saw the stupidity of it and climbed in the front.
No sex.
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Rookie exJW Question
by Phoebe ini was wondering if someone could help me with a question.. i am a rookie exjw, i only left the organization 4 months ago and everything i've discovered (un/arc/malawi/mexico etc) i've only discovered in the last few months so you can image it's been a huge shock to me especially after after 50 yrs!.
every time i think i've heard everything, something else pops up.. now i've come across a youtube video that mention tv evangelizer jimmy swaggart and the watchtower.
i remember jimmy swaggart from the time i lived in the u.s.a and i remember the scandals with him and prostitutes etc.
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Splash
Key dates:
EARLY 1980
'Jimmy Swaggart Ministries' is informed by the State of California that tax is due on all publications sold since 1974 in the state. The total of which is $183,000.00. Swaggart pays the tax but sues for a refund. This puts the wheels in motion for the case moving toward the U.S. Supreme Court.
FEBRUARY 1989
The U.S. Supreme Court rules sales taxes must be paid for religious publications sold. Although some states had been taxing religious publications from the start, Texas along with 14 other states were not doing so previously.
LATE SPRING/SUMMER 1989
During the U.S District Conventions of Jehovah's Witnesses, the Watchtower Society gives away books for free. Instruction is provided to Jehovah's Witnesses to place "donations" for covering costs in the Contribution boxes located throughout the faculty.
JUNE 22, 1989
The Watchtower Society files a "friend of the court" brief (amicus curiae) with the U.S. Supreme Court in the Jimmy Swaggart taxation case. This places the Watchtower Society with other religious organizations performing similar acts, such as Krishna Consciousness and the National Council of Churches.
JANUARY 17, 1990
The U.S. Supreme Court upholds that sales tax must be paid on all religious publications ruling against Jimmy Swaggart,
FEBRUARY 9, 1990
The Watchtower Society prepares a letter to be sent and read to all congregations announcing that literature will no longer be sold but offered at a "donation" basis.
FEBRUARY 25, 1990
The Watchtower Society's letter is read to the congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses throughout the U.S. The reason given in the letter? Ironically even after filing a friend of the court, it states... "By adopting a method of literature distribution based completely on donation, Jehovah's people are able to greatly simplify our Bible education work and separate ourselves from those who commercialize religion."
MARCH 1, 1990
New "donation arrangement" goes into effect, including distributing magazines and books door-to-door without stating a price. Since they had already been printed, the March 15, 1990 Watchtower and the March 22nd Awake still carried a 25 cents a copy and 5 dollars a year listing in their respective magazine. If this was such a well thought out and planned move by a so-called Godly directed organization, why were the prices still there after such a planned adjustment? The reason is it was not planned, not thought out, and not God directed. It was a quick business decision to avoid taxation, but the brothers worldwide were spun an entirely different story.*** km 3/90 p. 3 Announcements ***
Literature offer for March: The Bible—God's Word or Man's? for a contribution of $1.00. April and May: WT subscription. One-year subscriptions to semimonthly editions are $5.00. One-year subscriptions to monthly editions and six-month subscriptions to semimonthly editions are $2.50. Where the subscription is not obtained, two magazines and a copy of any brochure, except the School brochure, may be offered for the contribution of 80¢. June: Survival Into a New Earth for the contribution of $1.00.
*** km 4/90 p. 7 Announcements ***
Literature offer for April and May: Watchtower subscription. One-year subscriptions to semimonthly editions are available on a complete donation basis. Six-month subscriptions to semimonthly editions and one-year subscriptions to monthly editions can also be obtained. When the subscription is not obtained, two magazines and a copy of any brochure, except the School brochure, may be offered. June: Survival Into a New Earth. July and August: Any 32-page brochure, except the School brochure.