"spanning four generations"
err....surely you are mistaken....only one generation overlapping...
konceptual99
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"In a human moment before Jehovah grabbed her"
by truthseeker ini often wondered how far back the witnesses had been involved with my family.
my grandmother died at the end of 2013 and while going through her photos we found some of my great-grandmother, dora, who was born in 1901 and died in 1994. there is a photo of dora dated 1946 standing outside her house in east riding, yorkshire.
on the back of the photo her husband had written "in a human moment before jehovah grabbed her".. my great grandfather, who died before i was born, did not like the witnesses.
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List of UK Travelling Overseers in 2013
by soiledumpling inhi pepeep am attempting to get a current list of uk travelling overseers.
left 4 years ago and have heard rumours of many new ones.
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konceptual99
Peter Morgan (ex DO) is now an Elder in Worthing Durrington.
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Plymouth / Hull UK
by stan livedeath incopied from a facebook post :.
"heard on a youtube channel that " a purge " is taking place disfellowshipping quite a lot of witnesses in both hull and plymouth area,s ?".
anything to add ?.
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konceptual99
Jook - I think anyone who has been/was associated for a decade or two will have come across a number of COs. Most of them are simply company men who are as indoctrinated as the rest of us were and believe they are doing something important.
Some are genuinely nice people, others are perhaps not so easy to gel with but basically OK. Some think they are on the stage and perform. Some are as dull as dishwater. At the end of the day they are just blokes doing their thing and once you check out mentally then it's easy to ignore them.
Rose on the other hand is simply a nasty bloke. He's vindictive, authoritarian and genuinely thinks apostates are scum and should be hounded out then ignored. If the WTS said it was OK to chop of the head of an apostate then Rose would be first in line to have a go. He is a hatchet man who longs to clean out under performing men from bodies of appointed men. He could not care less about circumstances, just are you doing the hours.
He confuses frankness with being a rude bastard.
You will find few people that really like him unless they are of the same mind.
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Plymouth / Hull UK
by stan livedeath incopied from a facebook post :.
"heard on a youtube channel that " a purge " is taking place disfellowshipping quite a lot of witnesses in both hull and plymouth area,s ?".
anything to add ?.
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konceptual99
Nice to have you back disp and you are right... the bloke is a worse than a fly on a turd.
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Malcolm Young
by St George of England inmalcolm young of ac/dc has died at 64 years, dementia.
very sad.. always a great ac/dc fan, especially their river plate concert.. george.
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konceptual99
Big loss. Great band
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why won't legal department simply release all the secret pedophile files?
by poopie inwhat do you think there hiding?.
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konceptual99
Maybe someone should ask Fisherman what his opinion of the suitability of the JW child protection policy is? Given his ability to have an opinion on everything else I am sure we would get a quick response. I'm a bit busy but I nominate @dubstepped to have a go perhaps?
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Plymouth / Hull UK
by stan livedeath incopied from a facebook post :.
"heard on a youtube channel that " a purge " is taking place disfellowshipping quite a lot of witnesses in both hull and plymouth area,s ?".
anything to add ?.
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konceptual99
er - fat fingers. Meant to say "just as misguided" not "not as misguided"...
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why won't legal department simply release all the secret pedophile files?
by poopie inwhat do you think there hiding?.
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konceptual99
Fisherman has, in principle, made a couple of reasonable points. There is a privacy aspect to the release of confidential files, especially in the case of where essentially you are talking about allegations as opposed to proven cases of abuse. As a parent I would also say that there is a responsibility on them to ensure their children are as safe as possible.
However, in the context of the larger picture about JW child abuse, these are red herrings.
The courts have determined there is legal merit in the WT releasing the information from their files and they could easily cooperate with the authorities to ensure data is handled in a responsible manner to ensure that justice is served to everybody's benefit - especially the victims. Right now the one group left out of this loop of justice are the victims and it is simply immoral for the WTS to ignore them on the pretence of protecting others.
As for the responsibility of parents there are two obvious issues with a blanket statement about their responsibilities. Firstly, a high number of abuse incidents are perpetrated by at least one parent, sometimes with the knowledge, even support, of the other. Other close, naturally trusted, family members are also abusers. Secondly, the WTS breeds a culture of trust amongst it's members. Where you have elders abusing their position to abuse minors then you cannot simply transfer the blame onto the parents.
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Plymouth / Hull UK
by stan livedeath incopied from a facebook post :.
"heard on a youtube channel that " a purge " is taking place disfellowshipping quite a lot of witnesses in both hull and plymouth area,s ?".
anything to add ?.
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konceptual99
Even now I give most COs the benefit of the doubt as to their motives and methods. Company men one and all but not as misguided as the rest of us when in. Some had a genuine interest in people and were warmer than others. Some were not friendly or easy company but that's personality. Philip Rose on the other hand....
THE worst, THE most vindictive, THE most power crazed CO I have ever come across. The only good thing I can say is that his presence in our hall as CO speed up my withdrawal from activity as a Witness. It was after his first visit and the bile he spewed in the MS/Elders meeting that I resigned as an MS.
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ExJW responsible for calling the police at the Warwick protest, NOT Watchtower
by Diogenesister inaccording to the great apostate, who spent time with police officers at the protest, they informed him that it was not watchtower who called the police in but another exjw who briefly attended the protest and subsequently disapproved of the protesters methods...claiming they were being "violent".. i find this very difficult to understand.
anyone who saw the bravery of the women who stood up in the kingdom hall and told the story of their abuse and rape could not fail to feel compassion and offer their support.. i know there are posters on this forum who disagree with me.they worry that such protests play into watchtowers "persecution" complex, and naturally i understand their position.. but really, how long do we have to fear their power over their members, and through their members, us.. many jw's simply do not know the extent of the paedophile problem,.they do not know about malawi, the un, the bloodless surgery guinea pig deaths ( thank you orphan crow), the suicides....i simply don't believe that protests don't work....if there are enough of them, and they are organized, and most of all if we are united...we shall make a difference, and that difference may be your loved one.. https://youtu.be/ffhr9onbdrk.
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konceptual99
@steve2 - yes you are right. I am only speculating so it's impossible to say what the reason for the upset is and it could easily be the invasive nature of the filming. I think it's still an unusual reaction compared to the stony faces we normally see in these types of videos.