well well....how wonderful it is to see people taking potshots at one another, to see a group of people who could be supporting and helping one another instead turn to infighting and slagging.
i'm disgusted by it all, i really am.
in the last year or so that i've been online, i thought that i had made some real friends, i thought that it was possible to really get to know people thru this modern miracle of technology.
ISP thanks for the invitation! That's very kind of you and your wife
simon's only 15 mins away!I can think of all kinds of replies to that, but all of them would directly go against Simon's desire to keep this place clean, and might also endanger my friendship with Ang
Dana
i just woke up from a nap.
in the dream i had, i was with my mother.
i was talking with her.
Wow ((((((UD))))) my mom used to sing that song to me when I was a small child. (I'm still a child, just not small any longer )
I'm sorry that you've been so hurt by a screwed up religion, and I agree with the others that it would probably mean a lot to your mom to hear how that song reminds you of better times.
My mother now has absolutely nothing to do with me but I sing that song to my children and at least know that I have broken the cycle of placing conditions on a parent's love for her children.
Dana
well well....how wonderful it is to see people taking potshots at one another, to see a group of people who could be supporting and helping one another instead turn to infighting and slagging.
i'm disgusted by it all, i really am.
in the last year or so that i've been online, i thought that i had made some real friends, i thought that it was possible to really get to know people thru this modern miracle of technology.
Thanks to everyone for their comments...sorry if it sounded like a request for support; it was more venting on my part, as I was just fed up with the crap, here and elsewhere.
ISP yep, there are many weird folks around and many with their own agendas. As you say, you learn. And I'm hoping against hope to make it over there next summer! Saving my pennies
((((Ang and Cassi))) thanks for the calls and the hugs! Gee, maybe I should vent more often! LOL
((((((HadEnough)))))) I agree that there are many positives here. I think that this board has helped a great deal in getting attention focused on the plight of children being abused within the WTS. I've also met some great people; you're definitely at the top of that list. I don't mean to sound as though I never act childishly or react emotionally to stuff...good grief, I could be the poster child for over reacting! But I, like you, have many times deleted posts, waiting until I've cooled off a bit before throwing my words out there. I don't want to offend people; sometimes I take that too far. I'm just frustrated I guess with the lack of honesty and common courtesy that is so often displayed. Whatever...my rant is over; I'm just highly combustible in the mornings
Deal!You've received alot of good, sensible replies already, so I'll just say, shoot me an email or give me a call when things get to you...and I'll do the same...OK?
Dana
as you may have gathered, we've just returned from our vacation / visiting my dad in canada.
we all had a great time as we always do (i'll post some pics later).. it was very nice of 'concerned mama' to invite us over for dinner and for her and her daughter to show us the wonders of the west edmonton mall (where we went on a submarine ride!).
thank you so much for taking the time out for us and for your very generous hospitality - we hope we can repay the favour sometime!.
"Well the names have all changed since you hung around...lalalalalalala (can't remember all the words)lalalalal...welcome back, welcome back, welcoooooome baaack"
Oh OH! Mr. KotTER!
(yes, I know I'm showing my age )
(((((((Si and Ang))))))glad to have you both back and glad you had a nice trip.
Dana
well well....how wonderful it is to see people taking potshots at one another, to see a group of people who could be supporting and helping one another instead turn to infighting and slagging.
i'm disgusted by it all, i really am.
in the last year or so that i've been online, i thought that i had made some real friends, i thought that it was possible to really get to know people thru this modern miracle of technology.
Hillary ahhh, another voice of reason in a seeming wasteland! Your post is a very apt description of my own experience here...addiction, obsession, and eventually recognizing it and letting go. When I first came here, I was a frantic (dare I say fanatic? LOL) poster; I think it happens to most of us. I appreciate what you say about people leaving and that wasn't the aim of my post. I've lost interest in trying to wade thru the crap tho, I finally understand why some leave. (Sorry to hear about Maximus' illness...please give him my regards). When I find myself getting emotional over words on a screen, I know it's time to go wrestle with the kids or mow the lawn And you are sooooooooo right, the 'net is no replacement for real life. Thanks for your post; as always, a keeper.
Southland right on dude!!! We don't pay for it, so why whine? And I mean that differently from just expressing opposing opinions and viewpoints. The latter is a good and healthy thing, IMO. The former just seems to lead to more garbage.
Dana
well well....how wonderful it is to see people taking potshots at one another, to see a group of people who could be supporting and helping one another instead turn to infighting and slagging.
i'm disgusted by it all, i really am.
in the last year or so that i've been online, i thought that i had made some real friends, i thought that it was possible to really get to know people thru this modern miracle of technology.
Saint LOL, yeah me too I guess.
Seven SPAM?????!!!!!! ewwwwwwwwww! LOL love ya girl!
Simon and Skipper Yeah, I agree that it's a minority...my post was encompassing my experience here as well as in private IMs and emails, tho. I'm just really fed up with the dishonesty (emotional and otherwise) and hypocrisy I've seen displayed.
Lew Thanks. I'm not down, tho. I'm pissed off! LOL In past board wars, I was one who said things similar to what you are all saying and I agree that it will pass...until it happens again. I guess it's just been a slow burn that started months ago and has finally flared into a bonfire for me. I've been to several apostofests and have met some great people; they know who they are. What's interesting to me is how you can think you know someone and then, thru their behaviour, discover you never really knew them at all. And yes, this happens in RL relationships; it's just much easier to pull the wool over someone's eyes online.
((((Mimilly)))) sorry to hear of what you went thru as a child I know that type of environment, parents fighting, etc, can create emotional shut down and isolation. Thank goodness you have recognized that and haven't allowed it to close you off emotionally! You're one of the kind ones on the board and I respect what you post. No, I won't give other people power over me...this wasn't a goodbye post, if I ever leave, I'll just leave, no grandstanding. This was more a vehicle for me to express things that have been building for a while now. I may be slow to catch on, but eventually when I see it and get angry about it, I'm able to move on.
(((((((Brenda))))))) you and HadEnough certainly are people I consider trustworthy and true friends. I'm very happy to know you both.
Six Ok, your post made me LOL, for sure. Yes, some people eventually reveal themselves don't they? If nothing else I've gained, at least I know now not to be so trusting. And IMO you simply CANNOT really know someone over the 'net. It may be a starting place, but it's just too damn easy to fake too damn much, maybe even without consciously being dishonest. So..ok, got it now. Moving on.
JJ yup, my skin's getting thicker all the time. And I generally don't let all the BS bother me; perhaps I've just felt the weight of the last straw. Or perhaps it's just that this stuff continues to keep happening; the board cycles, and with each one, we get to see some really negative aspects of others' personalities. For instance, you all got to see one of mine today!
Ya know, I had trust issues before I ever came here...interestingly, most of them have been reinforced as opposed to alleviated. That's fine, I'm a big girl and I can deal with it. But it's been a major disappointment to me and a good lesson learned. So...growing pains...not to worry, they're rarely fatal...right? RIGHT??!
Edited to add: Maximum smart man! Be afraid...be very afraid! LOL
Dana
Edited by - safe4kids on 18 August 2002 12:39:52
well well....how wonderful it is to see people taking potshots at one another, to see a group of people who could be supporting and helping one another instead turn to infighting and slagging.
i'm disgusted by it all, i really am.
in the last year or so that i've been online, i thought that i had made some real friends, i thought that it was possible to really get to know people thru this modern miracle of technology.
Well well....how wonderful it is to see people taking potshots at one another, to see a group of people who could be supporting and helping one another instead turn to infighting and slagging. I'm disgusted by it all, I really am. In the last year or so that I've been online, I thought that I had made some real friends, I thought that it was possible to really get to know people thru this modern miracle of technology. My trust was misplaced, in so many areas, I can't even begin to describe them all.
Do I sound bitter? I'm not; I passed bitter months ago. I'm out the other side of it and the best way to describe my feelings right now is to say that I'm more sorrowful and disappointed than anything else. Goodbye naivete, hello reality. Thanks for the lessons folks. I don't think I would've learned it without you all showing me the way.
I feel sorry for Simon and Angharad, who's only real crime has been in trying to provide a place for people with issues to come together and discuss them. How awful indeed that Simon is human...who woulda thunk it?
I understand better now why some folks have left...like Maximus, Seeker, Ginny and a few others that I admire.
Do I really think that many (or any, for that matter) care about my opinion? Nope, but I usually keep my mouth shut in the interest of keeping the peace and I'm just fed up with it. I've experienced first hand manipulation, blatant dishonesty, and other less pleasant aspects of human nature from acquaintances and even people I called "friends"...call me immature, call me whatever you will, I really don't give a shit.
Dana (letting off some major steam class)
http://www.cnn.com/transcripts/0208/14/cct.00.html
chung: still ahead, stirring a new ingredient into the martha stewart stew.
stay with us for a taste.
I was shaking my head in disbelief at that statement from the WTS. A bald faced lie, indeed!! Anyone else think it's interesting that the society is embellishing their statements to the press? Keep the media heat going!!
Dana
well, the doctor is tired of waiting for me to have a contraction (havent had one since last weekend).
im 2 weeks overdue, and i say its about time.
however, i had a c-section with my last one and there may be a chance that ill have to have it this time around.
Congratulations KayKay! So happy that you and your new son are well and that the delivery went smoothly.
Two of the happiest days of my life were when I gave birth to my children...now the next two happiest will be when they leave home! Just kidding, of course. Can there be anything in life sweeter than holding one's newborn baby and looking into that cherished face for the first time?? I don't THINK so
Dana
P.S. to Gopher: and at the joke!
well, am i the first to remotely enjoy an apostefest?.
i called valis' house tonite, and man are they having a blast.
and to hear a crowd yell animal was fun and cool.
You guys got phone calls??!!! All I got were bloody IMs!!! Grrrrrrrr...just you wait till that Vennie girl gets back to Florida!
Dana
