What do I think of Matt 10:37?
Why would a loving God want you to give up your family and friends and break your heart?
Sounds like a spoilt child saying I'm your best friend now you must play with me and no-one else.
Narcissistic sadist.
used to justify shunning..
What do I think of Matt 10:37?
Why would a loving God want you to give up your family and friends and break your heart?
Sounds like a spoilt child saying I'm your best friend now you must play with me and no-one else.
Narcissistic sadist.
how do the governing body hear the voice of jehovah their corporation sock puppet?
how do they know jehovah's moods?
sad, indifferent, joyious, melancholy, pensive and so forth?
I wondered about this when I was in, how the FDS got the information for the Watchtower but it seemed to be taboo, no one talked about it. Can't believe I didn't pursue the question now. Think we had a vague idea all the anointed sent in ideas that had been given them but that was when they believd the FDS was all of the remnant not just the governing body.
so i said i would write about the 2014 convention program that you guys kindly posted here, to the jw friend who contacted me out of the blue after over 20 years since we d'ad.
sorry if you find this repetitive if you have already read my story.
this friend does not know anything about how my family shun me and i thought it is relevant in the light of the convention symposium talk about putting family in second place.
Thanks for all your thoughts everyone, I appreciate it.
Maeve well done to Goldie and you have two cockerels! Er I mean roosters.You say potato, I say ... potarto, well you know what I mean.
Yes spring is coming along nicely here thanks.The daffodils have been out for a few weeks and the cherry trees are covered in blossom. The birds are nesting ang singing their little hearts out. I mowed the lawn last weekend and potted up some pelargonium plug plants from the garden centre. I'm going to put them out in containers at the end of May. Usually that's the end of the frost but we've hardly had any this winter and no snow at all, just rain rain rain.
so i said i would write about the 2014 convention program that you guys kindly posted here, to the jw friend who contacted me out of the blue after over 20 years since we d'ad.
sorry if you find this repetitive if you have already read my story.
this friend does not know anything about how my family shun me and i thought it is relevant in the light of the convention symposium talk about putting family in second place.
So I said I would write about the 2014 convention program that you guys kindly posted here, to the JW friend who contacted me out of the blue after over 20 years since we D'ad. Sorry if you find this repetitive if you have already read my story. This friend does not know anything about how my family shun me and I thought it is relevant in the light of the convention symposium talk about putting family in second place. Thought I would post it on here just in case it might help someone.
So after chit chat I said :-
I’ve been taking a look on the JW official website JW.org, have you looked on it much? If you put 2014 convention in the search box you can see the program.
There is a symposium on the Friday afternoon called, What must be kept in Second Place? I’ve underlined it because it is in italics, for emphasis I suppose.
Apparently what must be kept in second place for a JW now is recreation, eating and drinking, concerns about health, courtship and weddings, family ties, material pursuits.
Now if (my daughter) came home from uni this weekend and said she’d joined a group that told her she had to put the group before her family, her health and eating, well what would I think? I would think she had joined a cult! I would tell her to get away from those crazy ideas. I’ve printed out the pages for Friday for you because I thought you might not believe me. You can print it out yourself as a pdf if you want on JW.org.
I know you are now thinking, oh they don’t mean it that way. They do (friend’s name), they really do insist you put your religion before your family, for example. My family don’t associate with me since I left the religion. The first time my sisters set eyes on (my daughter) was when my mother died.
(my daughter) came to the funeral, she was nine, her aunts, uncles and three cousins were strangers to her.
We then had to meet to do my father’s funeral four months later and then sort out their house. After that they dropped me. When (my husband ) died one sister and my brother came to his funeral, then a few weeks later they dropped me, again.
This is what this religion means by putting family ties in second place. Sadly, to me, this is not a loving Christian way to behave. They will tell you at the convention that it is an act of love to bring people back. Nonsense! After 25 years I am never going back, my family knows this. So why not associate with and support this widow and fatherless child? Because they are terrified I might say something to shake their faith? I don’t even talk about it, ever.
(Friend), I only ever discuss religion with you because you bring the subject up. As for putting the religion before health concerns, well listen carefully to that talk because that really is frightening!
Well, my friend, I expect I shall not hear from you again now that you know I am never coming back. I have to say I was surprised when you started writing after such a long time. Be sure I know your motives are good and you want to save me from this wicked world to live in the New System. I worry about you in the same way, getting worn out and poorly working hard for something that isn’t true.
So we’re a fine pair then aren’t we! There’s nothing we can do to change the other and that’s how it should be. People have the human right of believing whatever they want, as long as it doesn’t harm others .
You sound as though you have many friends in the religion and therefore you are happy to stay. In that case, good for you, friends are important.
Well I hope you both keep well and happy. (Enjoy your holiday etc etc)
Love to you both
how sad is it that one of the only eight links, on earth, to the creator of the universe thinks an endorsement by one and two year olds is a sign that jehovah has blessed the sparlock video?.
exerpts from anthony morris explaining the new sparlock animated video as downloaded to youtube by cedars.
] and as it would end shed gesture,..again.
MASTURBATION video, ... We’ve never produced a video that has had so much response
ROFL! The man has a gift for understatement.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pcvzpebrkxg.
to go along with this video if you look closely at any cover of the latest wt or aw magazines you will always find (if you take your time) a pyramid or triangle in some shape or form even if it is not completely symmetrical, check it out on the jw website.
also virtually all kingdom hall exteriors will have a pyramid or triangle shaped roof, take a look at your local hall or google kingdom halls.
The WT should dump Russell. -Band on the run
I think they have, haven't they? As I understand it he is no longer one of the anointed. Something to do with Jesus coming to inspect in 1919 and Russell was already dead by 1916. Convoluted teachings are difficult to keep up with but I think that's what someone said on here.
i have not been keeping up with jwn lately since i was out of town helping my mom.
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pcvzpebrkxg.
to go along with this video if you look closely at any cover of the latest wt or aw magazines you will always find (if you take your time) a pyramid or triangle in some shape or form even if it is not completely symmetrical, check it out on the jw website.
also virtually all kingdom hall exteriors will have a pyramid or triangle shaped roof, take a look at your local hall or google kingdom halls.
Thanks WOZ that's very helpful.
faders need a secret sign to use at the khall.
the thought came to me after reading replies to datadogs post on stopping singing at the meetings.. i can suggest a few secret signs for faders to use and to look for at the khall, but it would be better that current meeting attenders make suggestions here.
if readers on this site can agree to a secret sign to use at the meetings, just imagine the power that would have at your kingdom hall.
The geese are flying before the snow comes.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pcvzpebrkxg.
to go along with this video if you look closely at any cover of the latest wt or aw magazines you will always find (if you take your time) a pyramid or triangle in some shape or form even if it is not completely symmetrical, check it out on the jw website.
also virtually all kingdom hall exteriors will have a pyramid or triangle shaped roof, take a look at your local hall or google kingdom halls.
Wizard of Oz thanks for the picture. Just to be clear Russell's grave is the one I can see behind this pyramid surely? Or is your inset inscription picture on the other side of the actual pyramid?