Posts by Xanthippe

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Christmas Eve Afternoon

by Joe Grundy in

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well, it's christmas eve afternoon here now in the uk.. traditionally a time when all the panic shopping is over, what's done is done, what you've forgotten you've forgotten, time to raise a glass (or two) and relax.. so may i wish all members/readers/posters a very happy xmas, whether you celebrate it or not, and extra 'get up and go' for 2015.. best wishes to all.. .

Xanthippe

Hi Joe, Happy Christmas. It's 6pm here and I am having a chilled glass of white wine. Went for a lovely walk this morning in the sunshine with beautiful red deer in the woods and watched Battlestar Galactica all afternoon with my daughter. Looking forward to a veggie Xmas dinner with her tomorrow and also presents. She's a vegetarian, I'm not. Goat's cheese tart, roast potatoes and parsnips, red cabbage cooked in red wine, cloves and orange juice. Xmas pud to follow with brandy butter.

Happy Christmas JWN lovely people

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If Your JW Parent Died Would YOU Go To The Kingdom Hall For The Talk?

by minimus in

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i would like your thoughts, please..

Xanthippe

I went to my mother's funeral in her Kingdom Hall ten years ago. It was the one I grew up in and all the people I knew as a child were there but they didn't speak to me. Very odd experience. Afterwards when we went to a pub for sandwiches three young men in their twenties came up to my nine-year-old daughter and said we are your long lost cousins. They all said the same thing and nothing else and eventually walked away. She found that very odd too. I really don't know if I want to repeat that experience if I am still here when my siblings pass. I suppose I will have to see how I feel at the time.

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Elder Tells Study to stop using google for research ???

by raymond frantz in

elder tells study internet is bad for research.

(watch the video here...).

it might be that the watchtower has embraced the internet in recent years as never before but in private things are the same .watch this video as an elder strongly discourages a study from using the internet to get answers.shameless mind control from the same people who promote in any kind shape and form their version of online truth ,jw.org.. not many years ago they used to demonise the internet as the following quote from july 2007 kingdom ministry shows:.

Xanthippe

Thank you Raymond Frantz. What an idiot this elder is. No wonder people like my brother want to be elders and don't want to leave. How they love to tell people what to do! Uneducated people spouting nonsense, I don't know how anyone stands it. He oozes arrogance from every pore. If you set out to design an organisation to trap all the idiots who know nothing about anything but love telling people how to live you couldn't have hit on anything better than this cult. So, so glad I am away from these fuckwits.

According to this guy, they think they are the equivalent to Jesus on the earth and so people should ask them theological questions rather than looking at the wealth of information on the internet. Wow and I wonder why my relatives stay! A place for all the thick people in the world to feel at home.

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Are you an "out of the closet" atheist?

by rebel8 in

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i'm atheist and not ashamed of it.

however, it is so politically incorrect, especially where i live.

i have a legitimate concern that being out of the closet too much will hurt my career or neighborly relations--i know for a fact it probably would.. i'm really cautious about who i tell.. how about you?

Xanthippe

I like what you said Terry.

In the UK we do not talk to our neighbours or work colleagues about our religious beliefs or lack of them. People would think we are weird. It's a personal thing which is why it was hell trying to talk to strangers about it at the behest of a crackpot American religion. We do talk to close friends about life, the universe and everything, usually in a quiet moment with a glass of wine or a beer

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Every Sperm is Wasted

by berrygerry in

never watched "the meaning of life" as it was taboo.. the song every sperm is wasted.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/every_sperm_is_sacred.

http://www.lyricsdepot.com/monty-python/every-sperm-is-sacred.html.

funny movie.. thoughts?.

Xanthippe

Love the Life of Brian.

'And there shall in that time be rumours of things going astray, and there will be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia work base, that has an attachment…at this time, a friend shall lose his friends’s hammer and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before around eight o’clock...'

So funny.

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What do you want for Christmas?

by Hortensia in

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it's ok to share your xmas wishes here -- none of us is going to buy you anything, anyway!.

i have a list of books on my wishlist at amazon, some about critical thinking, some about knitting, some about yurok indian basketry.

i wouldn't mind getting any of those.

Xanthippe

Oh that's so cute, I want a fairy too. Reminds me of when my baby girl was that age, such a precious time.

I would like some perfume, some coffee flavoured chocolates or rum truffles and someone to clean the whole house for me before I put the tree up next weekend.

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local needs "are you spiritually grown up?"

by sylvlef in

yesterday local needs was this theme.

are you spiritually grown up.. summary: if you are between 18-35 and not ms or elder, you lazy idiot are like a child.

at this age, especially if you grew up in "da trooooth" you have no issue with jw.org doctrine right (how do you know...?

Xanthippe

Xanthippe, your post really resonates with me. It's the small-mindedness that I can't stand. It's largely what started me on my way out of the org. These people have no ambition for personal achievements or self-expression, no desire to contribute to society. They're just culture-less bumps on a log. - Apog

Culture-less bumps on a log! Lol. Don't stay too long Apog. It has taken me so long to learn to stop pretending I'm stupid so as not to make other people feel inferior after being in that cult. It is worse for women of course. They really dislike clever people but they detest clever women. It becomes so difficult to hold onto who you are after a while if you have something about you. Hope you manage to fade soon.

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Were we spiritually abused? Did or do we need spiritual healing?

by Fernando in

and if so what are our options?.

Xanthippe

Yes we were spiritually abused. We were beaten into submission until our whole being shrunk inside us and we became a mindless machine that could only obey rules and dared not think for ourselves for fear of losing everything.

Years ago my husband and I saw a spy film where a captured spy was tortured by one day being told the rules of the prison and the next day the rules were changed without anyone telling him. He did something wrong and was punished. Following the rules to the letter the next day he found the rules had been changed again and was punished. This went on for days and no matter what he did he couldn't get it right. He was emotionally beaten to a pulp. My husband and I recognized this torture straight away. In the WTS you cannot win. You cannot get everything right and still hold onto your spirit/ authentic self.

What heals us? Music can be very healing, I found classical choral music very spiritual. I love the sound of the human voice, but not singing silly love songs.

Poetry, don't knock it until you've tried it . A poem is a way of encapsulating a few thoughts and making them full of human feeling and experience. There is a lot of deep poetry about human emotional pain and finding healing.

Walking for miles in the countryside helped me. Blue skies, open spaces, wildlife, fresh air, all very healing.

Cooking, whether cooking something new or your favourite comfort food. Looking after yourself carefully like you would a small hurt animal until you begin to mend.

Creativity is good. Art, craft and again cooking is very creative. I love the chemistry of cooking, taking a pile of basic ingredients and mixing them in a certain way, putting them in the oven and voila! Pure magic.

Just one or two good friends who you can really talk to can be very healing. Having a glass or two of wine with a friend and pouring your heart out can be very good. Listen to them too. They may not have been in a cult but you will be surprised how many people know about rifts in families and being shunned by family members who don't agree with their lifestyle. It is more common than you think.

If you don't have anyone to talk to try counselling. It helped me enormously.

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local needs "are you spiritually grown up?"

by sylvlef in

yesterday local needs was this theme.

are you spiritually grown up.. summary: if you are between 18-35 and not ms or elder, you lazy idiot are like a child.

at this age, especially if you grew up in "da trooooth" you have no issue with jw.org doctrine right (how do you know...?

Xanthippe

Sylvief, when I left my mother said, the whole family is spiritually progressing and you're being left behind'!

Ha! I was studying for a degree. Nothing more spiritual than expanding your mind with knowledge.

JWs in general are about as 'spiritual' as my left shoe. - NAVYTOWN

Exactly! They have no interest in literature, they quote Paul blathering on about devotion to reading books being wearisome. It's alright to keep churning out their repetitive trash though isn't it?

No interest in fine art - all done by immoral people and homosexuals they say. Creativity for yourself is a waste of time, don't learn to paint or draw, better to wonder the streets waving leaflets about.

No interest in science. All scientists are evil having done nothing good for the world except to deceive us with evolution. Never mind that they would be dead without surgery, antibiotics and immunisation. Never mind indoor plumbing, central heating, electric light, TV, computers, phones, cars, fridges, microwaves, coffee makers, cookers.....................

No interest in travelling to see beautiful places, just think we can all see those countries in the new system. Bah! No interest in other cultures, new experiences. Typical of small minded people, who don't want to get to know anyone who isn't exactly like them.

They wouldn't know a spiritual experience if it bit them in the ass.

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New Star Wars movie trailer

by poopsiecakes in

the first trailer has been released!

true confession - i'm kind of a geek, always loved star wars and it gave me a bit of a lady boner.

anyone who knows the franchise is probably familiar with the character wedge antilles.

Xanthippe

Looks really good from the trailer, Star Wars meets Lord of the Rings.

I visited the beautiful villa on lake Como, Italy where Padme and Anakin got married. Didn't go to Italy especially for that, it's just a beautiful spot. I'm not that geeky :)