Posts by Xanthippe

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Jehovahs Chariot ... as driven by the GB

by Simon in

someone mentioned "jehovahs chariot is on the move" on another topic and i immediately had flashbacks to those articles where they tried to explain how a chariot could have wheels that went in every direction and also had eyes, something idiotic.. i had a chuckle because the image that then popped into my head when i thought about those wheels going every direction was not one of those clever honda devices with the clever wheel thingy - no, it was a supermarket trolley.

you know the ones where one or two of the wheels wobbly and have a mind of their own and typically want to veer off suddenly into an elaborate display of tinned food?.

that is jehovahs chariot as driven by the governing body.

Xanthippe

When I hear that expression keeping up with Jehovah's chariot it makes me angry because phrases like that are all about go faster, faster, you are falling behind. How could anyone on foot keep up with a chariot unless they ran like hell?

So many of these kind of phrases are designed to make people feel they are too slow, not doing enough. Do you remember that kingdom song that had the phrase 'quicken the pace' in it and other phrases about doing more and doing it faster. Can't remember which one it was now. Words set to music are even more dangerous because they go straight into the unconscious mind.

Is it any wonder these people are burnt out, exhausted and constantly ill?

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Holidays?

by Garrett in

jw
friends

not sure where to post this, so i posted here.

i was wondering, since your coming out of the organization, have any of you decided to start celebrating certain holidays?.

thanks, peace and love.

Xanthippe

Hi Garrett, I left 26 years ago and I do join in with most of the holidays now. The first year we didn't celebrate Christmas because we still thought of it as being of pagan origin, but we put up a tree and bought each other little presents the following year. Now I buy Easter eggs, birthday presents and I let my daughter go to Halloween parties.

Why? I was so damaged growing up as a JW and not being able to join in holidays at school. We are social animals, we need other people. I decided to let my daughter feel normal, not weird, 'no part of the world'! We are a part of the world, trying to be separate was very bad for us psychologically.

Does it matter that things have pagan or even Christian origins? I no longer believe in God and I see religion anthropologically, it was part of the development of humanity, it helped people cope with the harsh realities of life.

It's fun being'normal' and joining in. Many holidays have become commercialised but I just join in as much as I want to and leave whatever I don't like. I can also be relaxed at work during holidays, give cards, eat mince pies, have a birthday drink with colleagues, go to the Christmas party. As an ex- JW it has made my life so much easier now.

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Serious business

by brandnew in

this my friends will help in a long struggle that me and my girlfriend are having.........does the toilet paper unravel over or under.

thank you for your cooperation on this timely matter...

Xanthippe

Over obviously. Follow the evidence. If under is true I demand to see peer reviewed papers.

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I was shy on my first JW.ORG Video, I am so happy sharing God's Organization with you!

by JWCart1975 in

jw.org is the fastest growing media outlet in the world, our local cobe said we are going to take the media from satan's wicked world!

repent before it's too late and come back to the kingdom hall with all your loving brothers and sisters!

you won't find happiness without jehovah's organization and you know it!

Xanthippe

Of course it's a wind up hence the name with 1975 in it.

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It hurts

by Gorbatchov in

jw
friends

it hurts me a lot to see all the changes in wts community.

(hypocrisy, jw.org, property investments).

it hurts me so much, sometimes i want to stop following it.. maybe it's time to say goodbye to it all, protecting me for getting mad.. i have a nice family, wife, kids and everything i wish.

Xanthippe

Wishing you lots of luck Gorby. My husband and I took a complete break for twenty years after we left. We needed to put it all behind us because we found it so painful. When you believe it all and work your socks off it hurts doesn't it. I wish you well, have an amazing life

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Thankyou tv.jw! you are helping my wife wake up!

by stuckinarut2 in

i have to thank tv.jw!!!

(im not putting the complete link, but you know what i mean).

after showing my wife the 'trolley song' as we now call it, she was rolling on the floor in embarrassment and shock.. she shook her head, and was clearly troubled by what we watched.. little by little, the org is actually helping more to wake up!

Xanthippe

Thanks Vanderhoven. Started watching the beginning because I didn't realise that ridiculous song was at the end. Anyway Herd says people think just because we have unity of thought we are brainwashed. He said we have had our brains washed from the complicated doctrines to find the simplicity of truth. Can't believe he said that. Let's keep it simple folks, we're all too stupid to understand anything else. What an admission.

Good news about your wife Stuck. May they keep shooting themselves in the foot!

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Is the Watchtower "Be Happy@Bethel" music video a United Nations promotion?

by OUTLAW in

pharrell partners with un for 'international day of happiness'.

still riding the success of his global hit "happy," is partnering with the united nations foundation to celebrate international day of happiness on march 20th.

established in 2012 by the united nations general assembly, the day acknowledges that "the pursuit of happiness is a fundamental human goal" and recognizes "the need for a more inclusive, equitable and balanced approach to economic growth that promotes sustainable development, poverty eradication, happiness and the well-being of all peoples," according to the resolution.. pharrell williams gets 'happy' on 'despicable me 2' soundtrack - song premiere.

Xanthippe

WHATSGOINGON thank you for answering my question of several days ago, where did the film come from and did the GB approve it. So it looks like it was privately done and shared outside bethel without the GBs approval. Still find it odd that with all the effort needed to get the cooperation of all those departments and 900 participants, this was just meant for bethel. Or does he mean it was just meant for JWs, more indoctrination for the R + F , we are the happiest people in the world blah, blah, blah, only it got out on the web?

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"Religion gives us the Why"

by Phizzy in

i have heard this nonsense said by many believers, especially when science conflicts with their belief, they say:.

" well, science may tell us how we got here, religion tells us why we are here".

does religion tell us that ?

Xanthippe

I like making up my own purpose. It changes over the years. At differerent times I have been obsessed with leaving home, finding a partner, having a child, getting a degree, finding the job I really wanted to do. At the moment I want to get the damn garden straight and looking beautiful. I would also like to visit as many countries as I can before I am too old.

Some people are obsessed with collecting stamps, playing the bagpipes or breeding chihuahuas. Each to their own.

There's no need to feel lost without religion telling us why we are here. I would hate someone to tell me what the purpose of my life should be now. The thought of some religious leader telling me why I'm here and what I have to do for my life to have purpose horrifies me.

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Something JWs don't understand how to do

by enigma1863 in

i had to share this quote.

it reminds me of trying to reason with jws.

you can only go so far before they shut down.. .

Xanthippe

Absolutely, at the very least you can better understand the person who has introduced the idea to you. Perhaps you might begin to have a whole new perspective on life if you entertain a thought you might previously have dismissed out of hand. Where would philosophy and theoretical physics be without the thought experiment.

http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-most-famous-thought-experiments.php

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HOW EXACTLY does god communicate with or direct the GB?

by stuckinarut2 in

we're all familiar with the organisations claims (and have seen the flow diagrams in books and mags) that the gb is "directed by god".

in turn, the local elders are "directed by god".

so, how exactly do they suppose this happens?

Xanthippe

Always wondered about this but we were not supposed to ask. It seemed to me like spiritualism, God talking to them, giving them messages. Anyway as we all now know they just make it up as they go along and people live or die because of it. What a power trip!