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  WT loses appeal in UK!!!!!!!

  by Viva la Vida in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the wt lost its appeals regarding the charity commission inquiry.

  here is the ruling:.

  http://www.charity.tribunals.gov.uk/documents/decisions/watch-tower-ruling-03mar15.pdf.

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  Xanthippe

  I assume if they lose charity status they have to pay Income Tax on money made on property they sell and Stamp Duty Land Tax on property they buy?
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  Before knowing TTATT did you really believe in things as...

  by roberto avon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  did you really believe in things as ;- the earth is only 6000 years old- the 144.000- 1914, based upon the destructiono of jerusalem- harmagheddon or the end of the world coming soon???

  ?i married a jw when i was an interested person and studying with the jw's ( not the way they wanted) but i told my wife before marrying her that " most probably " i would never have been a jw.she accepted me as i was and married me.

  after that i had interrupted the study for one year, i started all over again with an elder of my wife's cong.

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  Sounds good Roberto. Your wife is just using the KH like a church and going when she feels like it. She is not being guilted into doing anything else, she doesn't believe all the teachings and your kids are growing up normal as you say. Sounds like a healthy life.

  I hope she doesn't suddenly become guilted into doing more, the mind control techniques are very subtle. Good luck to you and your family.
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  Over Education leads to Ugliness, Premature ageing and Beard Growth

  by snugglebunny in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it could have come straight from brooklyn!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls37snyjg8w.

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  Xanthippe

  If only it was just a joke. Interesting quote here from the British LIbrary about Victorian Britain

  
  

  In the upper classes it was assumed that a girl would marry and that therefore she had no need of a formal education, as long as she could look beautiful, entertain her husband’s guests, and produce a reasonable number of children. ‘Accomplishments’ such as playing the piano, singing and flower‐arranging were all‐important. If she could not find a husband she faced a grim future as a 'maiden aunt' whose help could always be called on to look after her aged parents or her siblings’ children. She might even be forced to take on employment as a governess, shut away in the schoolroom with children who had little interest in absorbing the information she was teaching. This became increasingly unattractive to intelligent women. But their future was improved when Queen’s College in Harley Street, London was founded in 1848, to give governesses a recognized and marketable qualification. No ‘accomplishments’ there. Ten more years saw the foundation of Cheltenham Ladies’ College. Other girls’ public schools followed. This increase in female education led to renewed demands for the vote. The National Union of Women’s Suffrage Societies was founded in 1897, hotly denounced by the Queen, who from her position of unimaginable power saw no reason why women should want to vote at all.

  
  

  http://www.bl.uk/learning/histcitizen/victorians/education/victorianeducation.html
  
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  The Days if Noah - Is this the new unofficial generation?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  edit - "the days of noah" damn!.

  long story short - i need to go to bed!

  i was in edinburgh today with my wife (football, coffee, walks, food, cinema) and i always try to take 10 minutes to have a chat with the jws on the trolley in the "big city".. i challenged an older guy who turned out to be an pioneer about the generation.

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  Xanthippe

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/48590002/new-wts-end-date-2034
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  Will this Memorial be our last?

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  they just put up the march km 2014 on the private website.

  most of it is same-old-same-old, with info here and there about the memorial.. somebody here might post the march km for all to see, i wont.. i just wanted to share the paragraph from page 2 q&a anticle: will you seize the opportunity?

  upcoming memorial enables us to show gratitude .

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  When a prophecy has been repeated every year for 140 years it starts to wear a bit thin. Could it be this year? Are we there yet?
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  How does "spirit directed" not equal "possessed"?

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  religious people in general and the jws in particular often make claims of being "spirit directed".. normally it's thrown out as a rather glib claim of being inspired by god / jehovah and to justify any decisions they make via an appeal to authority.. but think about it for a moment - suppose it were true ... how would it actually work?

  when they talk about elders appointments and decisions being "spirit directed" what exactly does the mechanism consist of?

  does some unseen force make hem raise their hand when they otherwise wouldn't?

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  Yes I've said this before, if they are directed by God how does this happen. Do they hear a voice, does a GB member do automatic writing directed by a spirit. What happens? It sounds like they are saying GB meetings are nothing more than a seance.

  I wanted to ask someone of the anointed about this when they still taught that all the remnant were part of the faithful and discreet slave but it wasn't the done thing. When you think that people literally live or die according to what these seven men are supposed to receive from Jehovah but nobody dares ask how they receive it, it seems crazy.
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  Before knowing TTATT did you really believe in things as...

  by roberto avon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  did you really believe in things as ;- the earth is only 6000 years old- the 144.000- 1914, based upon the destructiono of jerusalem- harmagheddon or the end of the world coming soon???

  ?i married a jw when i was an interested person and studying with the jw's ( not the way they wanted) but i told my wife before marrying her that " most probably " i would never have been a jw.she accepted me as i was and married me.

  after that i had interrupted the study for one year, i started all over again with an elder of my wife's cong.

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  Yes 100%
  I don't understand people who don't really believe it and still stay in. As soon as I worked out it was a lie I left. - Cofty

  I agree with Cofty, I don't do things I don't believe in.

  True, I was an uneducated, deliberately information-controlled, second generation JW but as soon as I realised it was a corrupt religion I resigned.

  Why did you continue studying and marry a JW if you didn't believe it?
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  Female Perspective about WTS, marital relationship & control

  by Muddy Waters in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  despite my user name, am female.

  i was not born-in, began studying when i was around 20, am 50 damn years old now and have spent almost the last 30 years in that stupid religion.

  but here are some observations, make of them what you will.

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  Xanthippe

  Interesting theory. Having children does change a woman greatly. But wouldn't she feel the greatest need for security from her husband as the person who loves her, loves her children and is probably working to provide financially for those children. Wouldn't she want to follow him out rather than side with 'sisters' in the cong? Not criticising your relationship just following your argument here.
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  I Haven't Missed a Meeting in Years!

  by Oubliette in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i recently ran into a jw i knew from a few years back.you know how it goes, a few pleasantries that always seem much more awkward than they really should (not for me, mind you--for him).and then the question, "so what congregation are you attending?

  are you able to make the meetings?

  "i'm thinking: do you always start conversations this way?so anyways, knowing full well the jw-mindset, i decided to have a bit of fun.furrowing my brow, i said, "that's an odd question!

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  Xanthippe

  Love it Oub! Well done. I do not miss meetings either! Funny side effect from sitting in boring meetings for my entire childhood is at work in meetings I immediately zone out when they become boring. It's a survival habit that leads to me missing things! Oops.
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  More Child Abuse Issues in today's Sunday Times

  by snugglebunny in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there's several letters from readers published today.

  there's also mention of another abuse - shunning.

  i can't locate the letters on the sunday times website, can someone else have a go?

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  Xanthippe

  Actually your pic is quite clear, I can read nearly every word. Thanks!