Posts by Xanthippe

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I wonder if you can be spiritual and religious at the same time??

by Deltawave in

ok again i would like to apologise as i did come across preachy.

i am not going to debate whether or not i am a bk as you have your opinions either way.

what i was trying to write though was my thoughts and feelings which i hope don't offend anyone on this forum.

Xanthippe

The more we allow our feelings and emotions to control us the longer religion and 'spirituality' will continue to imprison us and keep us from evolving as a species.

Well thanks for trying to clarify DJS although I'm still not sure what you mean but you know emotion makes people get their wallet out when they see children with pot bellies on the TV. Is the camera team trying to manipulate our emotions? Yes of course they are but for a really good reason. They could just say in a voice over, send money for Ethiopia, Sudan, whatever and give you a website and phone number.

The sensible and controlled thing might be to say I can't afford it but thankfully many people are moved by their emotions to help others.

However I was talking about enjoying art with all of our emotions. I hope you think that is compatible with rational living?

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I wonder if you can be spiritual and religious at the same time??

by Deltawave in

ok again i would like to apologise as i did come across preachy.

i am not going to debate whether or not i am a bk as you have your opinions either way.

what i was trying to write though was my thoughts and feelings which i hope don't offend anyone on this forum.

Xanthippe

DJS sounds as though you may be frightened of 'self induced emotions'. People listen to music, look at art or beautiful scenery and read literature or poetry to produce emotions called happiness, pleasure, joy, nothing to do with superstition. You are getting hung up on labels. The word spirituality is just a word, if you google synonyms for happiness is lists high spirits.

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I wonder if you can be spiritual and religious at the same time??

by Deltawave in

ok again i would like to apologise as i did come across preachy.

i am not going to debate whether or not i am a bk as you have your opinions either way.

what i was trying to write though was my thoughts and feelings which i hope don't offend anyone on this forum.

Xanthippe

I recommend poetry by W B Yeats, Keats, Shelley, Robert Frost and Emily Dickinson. You might enjoy C G Jung's autobiography Memories, Dreams, Reflections. You might find wondering around an art gallery lifts your spirits or perhaps you'd prefer a walk in the woods or near mountains.

When I left the JWs my spirit was starving for nourishment. I agree the idea that running microphones or giving out leaflets is somehow spiritual is ludicrous. The neglect of the people is, I agree, appalling. You would find volunteering for a charity much more rewarding. Your local library should be able to help you with volunteering opportunities in the area. Or just google it.

I understand the happiness that meditation brings. I was first taught it by Buddhist monks in saffron robes but the teachings afterward put me off. Western Buddhism is similar to Christianity. Personally I look for spirituality without religion now.

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I wonder if you can be spiritual and religious at the same time??

by Deltawave in

ok again i would like to apologise as i did come across preachy.

i am not going to debate whether or not i am a bk as you have your opinions either way.

what i was trying to write though was my thoughts and feelings which i hope don't offend anyone on this forum.

Xanthippe

The human spirit needs art, beauty, poetry, music, literature and to experience different cultures around the world. To raise us up from the everyday humdrum existence, to make us think, feel deeply and to fill us with the desire to improve this beautiful planet so that everyone can enjoy it instead of many spending their days scratching out an existence and unable to think of anything but their empty bellies.

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NEWBIES are leaving like crazy! Be very afraid WT

by clarity in

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# 3 newbie post.

first of all, the newbies have set a record here!.

have you ever seen a 4pg post where 21 new members reply!

Xanthippe

I've just clicked on 'users' and 17 people have joined in the last 2 days. Welcome to all of you. Look forward to hearing your views,

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A Toast to All the Brave Kids Who Broke Up with Their Toxic Moms

by rebel8 in

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friends

sometimes holidays can be hard on us.

some of us deserve a little toast today.. a toast to all the brave kids who broke up with their toxic moms.

Xanthippe

We should have UN-Mother's Day!
Marina

Eh, I think that's what this is.

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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

by Deltawave in

there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

Xanthippe

Deltawave has on a recent thread described accurately the Watchtower discussion at the meeting. He is not Brahma Kumaris, just a JW trying to leave and looking for help. Disgusted! He can't even spell! He is not a threat.

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A Toast to All the Brave Kids Who Broke Up with Their Toxic Moms

by rebel8 in

jw
friends

sometimes holidays can be hard on us.

some of us deserve a little toast today.. a toast to all the brave kids who broke up with their toxic moms.

Xanthippe

Ah right Mother's Day, I see, we did that back in March. I actually miss my mother now even though she was very critical. I think she had depression for years because of being in that cult. Or perhaps she got sucked in because she had depression. Chicken and egg. Anyway she's not suffering anymore and for that I'm glad. I just wish we could have been friends.

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Something tells me 1914...

by Monsieur in

after todays watchtower lesson, and the lessons coming, something tells me bigger and bigger new understandings are coming.

and that it will culminate with 1914. notice how jesus is now coming, and no longer already here.

the current understanding is both, he is here and hes also coming.

Xanthippe

Monsieur I agree with you I think this is leading up to ditching 1914. People keep saying the GB can't drop 1914 because how can the religion carry on if they do that. The emerging Protestant churches said the Church of Rome was Babylon the Great because of its corruption and this signified the end of all things as described in Revelation. This didn't come true but those religions survived and are thriving. Now they believe their hope is in heaven. Somehow they changed their views radically and have kept going for 500 years.

JWs are just another Protestant religion who used the same old diatribe as Luther et al, let's get back to what the Bible really says, then we will find the truth. All the Protestant religions rejected a priesthood and advocated a personal relationship with God, just like the JWs. Most of them ended up with their own clergy elite and being told what to believe, just like the JWs. If all Protestant religions can prophecy the imminent fulfilment of Revelation and yet survive 500 years after its failure so can the JWs.

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Types and anti types

by Deltawave in

according the watchtower study of may 10th, it has been made clear no prophetic meaning should be given to a a scripture or passage unless the bible itself gives clear interpretation of it.

therefore daniel 7 especially gives it's fulfillment to nebuchadnezzar only.

no future kingdom or 2520year wait til 1914. no gentile times or "this generation".

Xanthippe

I think one day a few years from now they will quote these articles and say, but brothers we have said for a long time the Daniel prophecy only applied to Nebuchadnezzar. You brothers misunderstood that it had a second fulfillment. After all, they'll say, Jesus said nobody knows the day or the hour.

Then they'll say what my brother said when I challenged him in 1994 about it being 80 years since 1914, 'we are not serving Jehovah to a specific date we are serving Jehovah forever'.