Posts by Xanthippe

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Why it's a waste of time talking to JW's

by Phizzy in

i believe it to be a waste of time talking to, reasoning with, jw's if you expect any kind of quick result.. many of us when we first wake up think that 'coz ttatt is blindingly obvious to us, it will soon get through to our jw loved ones.. this simply isn't so for a couple of important reasons.

the first is that, if someone believes something is true, or the truth, to them it really is, without doubt, true.

so whatever you say must be wrong somehow.. the second problem is that jw's simply do not have to use, or pay any attention to facts and logic.

Xanthippe

It depends on the personality type I think. There are people in my extended family who say things like I don't do texting, I don't do ATMs, I don't buy things online it's not safe. My relatives seem very stubborn, emotional, paranoid and they hate change. So it's no surprise that the JWs among them want to snuggle down in their comfort zone and keep the status quo. Struggling against these people since childhood has profoundly affected the way I see others and I really have to fight the urge to give up on people because of my 'brick wall' relatives.

I don't think all families are like this Phizzy. Some people are more cerebral and they like to think, they enjoy reading and learning new things and while not relishing change can see the need for it. God knows why I am different from them but that's genetics for you. The genes fall differently every time. Apparently my maternal grandmother had a brother who went to sea and travelled the world. He was a real explorer and loved change. Now there was a relative I should have liked to have met.

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Start A Butterfly Garden!

by Bonsai in

jw
friends

time to take a break from debating religion.

take in a breath of fresh air and be healed by the wonders of nature around you.. how many of you have a garden?

how many have a nice flower patch to go with your vegetable garden?

Xanthippe

Quite a few butterflies in the garden today. Red Admirals, small blues and Tortoiseshells. I saw my first Orange Tip last week. The bee balm, Monarda, isn't quite big enough to plant out yet but hopefully that will attract more insects. It does smell lovely which made the seedlings a real joy to pot on. Looking forward to the flowers.

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Start A Butterfly Garden!

by Bonsai in

jw
friends

time to take a break from debating religion.

take in a breath of fresh air and be healed by the wonders of nature around you.. how many of you have a garden?

how many have a nice flower patch to go with your vegetable garden?

Xanthippe

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Start A Butterfly Garden!

by Bonsai in

jw
friends

time to take a break from debating religion.

take in a breath of fresh air and be healed by the wonders of nature around you.. how many of you have a garden?

how many have a nice flower patch to go with your vegetable garden?

Xanthippe

Half banana it's a very rosy eating apple, quite delicious. I don't know the name of it, it was here when we bought this house. I also have a cooker that tastes very similar to a Bramley which is just coming into flower. I will try and post a picture of it but it's very slow loading photos from my iPad on this site today.

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Start A Butterfly Garden!

by Bonsai in

jw
friends

time to take a break from debating religion.

take in a breath of fresh air and be healed by the wonders of nature around you.. how many of you have a garden?

how many have a nice flower patch to go with your vegetable garden?

Xanthippe

My apple tree is so full of blossom this year.

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Start A Butterfly Garden!

by Bonsai in

jw
friends

time to take a break from debating religion.

take in a breath of fresh air and be healed by the wonders of nature around you.. how many of you have a garden?

how many have a nice flower patch to go with your vegetable garden?

Xanthippe

My columbines are just opening.

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Outstanding new book out today for you atheists, agnostics, humanists, naturalists and free thinkers

by Cornbread in

i just got back from the bookstore and i can't wait to sink into it based on all the reviews and press it has been getting.

it's called the big picture - on the origin of life, meaning, and the universe itself by sean carroll.. “weaving the threads of astronomy, physics, chemistry, biology, and philosophy into a seamless narrative tapestry, sean carroll enthralls us with what we’ve figured out in the universe and humbles us with what we don’t yet understand.

yet in the end, it’s the meaning of it all that feeds your soul of curiosity.” —neil degrasse tyson, host of cosmos: a spacetime odyssey*publishers weekly #1 most anticipated science book of spring 2016*"already internationally acclaimed for his elegant, lucid writing on the most challenging notions in modern physics, sean carroll is emerging as one of the greatest humanist thinkers of his generation as he brings his extraordinary intellect to bear not only on higgs bosons and extra dimensions but now also on our deepest personal questions.

Xanthippe

Looks good thanks for the heads up. Physics and philosophy, nothing better.

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It is now official: Another falsified Watchtower prophecy

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

"jesus was obviously speaking about those who were old enough to witness with understanding what took place when the 'last days' began.

... even if we presume that youngsters 15 years of age would be perceptive enough to realize the import of what happened in 1914, it would still make the youngest of 'this generation' nearly 70 years old today.

" awake!

Xanthippe

Wow it's true what they say about the Japanese diet then. I must eat more fish.

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Now finally Caleb & Sofia Anti-Gay Video going viral in Germany too

by Daniel1555 in

today spiegel online & bento have an article about the anti-gay video.. spiegel is one of the biggest and most serious news media in germany.. they also report and show that youtubers cut the video and changed it in a funny way.

sofia tells her mother that the teacher said it's fine if they live each other.

then sofia's mother says: "thats wonderful.".

Xanthippe

I mean, I am also not invited to paradise - should I be equally offended? Should I call the newspaper

I am offended that my relatives have been commanded to ignore me and then my child for nearly thirty years because they are afraid of being shut out of paradise. This vid is about being very careful not to do anything that will cause them to be shut out of paradise. Including admitting to one's sexual orientation.

I am not shocked by this vid, it is typical JW cultism but why should the world not comment on it? We should speak up against any form of discrimination. I am part of normal human society now and 'we' speak up against discrimination.

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I thought it was time to talk.....

by wozza in

i'd like to relate an experience i had yesterday with a couple of jw's "working" with a cart yesterday.. been coming to this site for many years and these days i don't feel i've got much to contribute ,but i was out yesterday doing some voluntary work for a friend who has gone on an overseas trip .travelling around my local seaside area doing the job at hand ,i came across a couple of jw's sitting in a shelter overlooking the beach and had their trolley propped against a large public rubbish bin ,it was actually hard to see ithe trolley from most angles - whatever happened to lifting the basket to show the light stuff ...oh well .the large carpark was pretty empty except for us ,we've had pretty wet weather here lately ,bad storms and here they were set up for a days witnessing rugged up with wind and spitting rain ,i sort of thought " well that's dedication " ....that was my first thought then i pulled myself together and then thought "if i wanted to get some time in and not have to work at it too hard this maybe the place to go if i was a jw still".. well i finished my pickup and looked over at the two and realised i'd read other's experiences about approaching the cart people and wondered if talking to them would be of any benefit as i had witnessed this area for many years and my stance against the wts for hiding molestation of children is well known ,i thought, and they avoid me like the plague.. they were'nt familiar to me so i went up to them and introduced myself and quickly let them know who i was and what i am doing now as regards jw's.

they were a married couple middle aged been in for a long time and could relate to changes in the org very well to pre 1975 when i had first contact.

they pretty much suggested i was blinded to the truth ,when challenged on the royal commission into sex abuse they pointed to a case where they believed a victim they supposedly knew of in the jws was a liar ,so that's their case for the org -unbelievable.

Xanthippe

Well done wozza. I've only seen a cart once when I was at work on my lunch break so I didn't have time. I'm not sure how I would approach and how frustrating I would find it but as you say the experience was as much for you as for them. Cathartic, good to find you've moved on from feeling really angry.