now they are really scraping the barrel.
check out this discussion on exjw reddit .... https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/6v85y9/pioneer_school_today/?st=j6nwx7ny&sh=136a59c9.
I've said it before but the Borg know exactly what the COs are saying. These verbal commands are not in the literature for the very reason they can deny it if challenged, as they were by the ARC on their shunning procedures.
The verbal commands go into the minds of the R+F and they know this is what is required of them. It's very clever and insidious, so much of what I believed as a JW was verbally taught in talks and denied if necessary because it wasn't in print.
i think most witnesses are simple minded.many are ignorant.
there are a lot of basically "good people "in the religion but i believe many are kind of dumb, including many elders.
do you agree with my thoughts??
I have known doctors, teachers and airforce officers who became JWs but in the main they've been poorly educated people.
Yes Minimus it was hard to listen to uneducated elders stand up and tell you how to live your life, men that could barely pronounce words correctly.
The WTS make a virtue out of being ignorant, equating it with humility. They want to keep them stupid, hence the disapproval of higher education.
some things i just didnt notice at the time which now seem so obvious:.
the bible tells us that the end will come like a thief in the night, when we least expect it.
(matthew 24:44).
If I ever print my book of exJW quotes this ones going on the front cover Xanthippe!!
Thanks! You must send me a copy!
some things i just didnt notice at the time which now seem so obvious:.
the bible tells us that the end will come like a thief in the night, when we least expect it.
(matthew 24:44).
(Why any woman would have respect for the bible baffles me).
Personally I hated the way men acted towards me in that religion and who can blame their misogyny with scriptures like that condoning rape. I thought Jehovah would explain it all to me in the new world but instead it was Darwin.
most christian religions believe it will be a thousand-year period of peace.
jws, however, seem to believe in the resurrection and then life on paradise earth.
but do they believe in the millennium the way other christians do -- where the lion will lay down with the lamb [bzzzt...mandela effect correction] wolf will lay down with the lamb?
I've been LDS for 45 years and have friends who are highly active in the ex-Mormon community.
So why are you here? On an ex-JW site. Are you trying to recruit vulnerable people who have just esaped the JW cult? I find that objectionable, preying on struggling, wounded people.
that's what i've been told by a family member (elder) who went to one of the regional conventions in the north of the u.k lately, who told me the 300 or more disfellowshipped who returned to jehovah by attending show that the end is so close, just like the final talk says..
So the cult says 300 have returned to the cult. Must be true then.
greetings, dear friends and fellow survivors:.
i am grateful to be alive and associated with like-minded people, both here on this wonderful forum and in day-to-day interaction with friends, neighbors, clients, but, sadly, few if any jehovah's witnesses.
i have, somehow, become detached from the sadness and sorrow of the past, about which i have written on this and other ex-jw forums for some dozen-plus years.
I'm glad you're able to be frank about your life experience and who you are now 😀 Contentment and peace sound beautiful. I find that joy is a bonus that pays an occasional visit when we least expect it.
i don't mean overly obvious, or otherwise meaning to cause harm, but taught to lie for the purpose of avoidance.
this type of lying can be pervasive in areas of life that are not just to avoid discussions with people who have questions about the jw, etc.
my husband will lie/be deceitful about the silliest, simple things.
It's all about avoidance isn't it. I have a relative who habitually lies to avoid confrontation because she likes everything to be 'nice' and everyone to get on. You can see how this personality type is either drawn to this religion or stays in it as a born in.
The whole culture is avoid reality, avoid looking at the world as something that can be changed but as a waste of time that God needs to destroy. Just wait for panda paradise. Therefore a JW has the supreme avoidant personality. They're bound to lie to avoid trouble. Thanks for this thread, very interesting.
hmmmm...yesterday my long life friend called my landline after many years of silence.
now the shock has subsided, i am wondering if i can forgive and forget the fact she chose not to keep in touch throughout a time in my life which was very stressful.
sadly, i gathered that she is still involved with jehovah’s witness faith.
Hi Latte, the reason I came on this forum was because a friend of my late husband suddenly got in touch five years ago after shunning us for 24 years. No reason given, and she kept talking about the religion even though I said I didn't believe it any more. Like you I thought what's going on and thought maybe I'd find something on this forum to explain it.
For a while I kept replying to her letters talking about normal stuff, my daughter, our holidays, but the JW stuff was continually being slipped into her letters. Finally got really annoyed when she said surely I wanted to return, didn't I want to see my husband again. I got cross, I hate emotional blackmail. Playing on someone's grief is the worse kind. I told her about the ARC. Her reply was to send me that Return to Jehovah rag. I sent her a Christmas card. Result - peace at last.
i am sure we have all thought of this before, but it struck me again today:.
why does the society promote such vitriolic hate toward, and about those who have left "the truth" ?.
surely it is obvious that such critical attitudes towards ones like us who have left, only serves to proove that they do not have "the truth"?.
If they allowed our families and friends to treat us normally how long would it take for them to realise we haven't gone to the Devil and what we say makes a lot of sense.
