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  Humans can have answers to any questions

  by venus in

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  2. beliefs

  god would not say: “you should not eat from the tree of good and bad, which would make you like me” because through jesus he said: ‘you must become like me by imitating the qualities of sun whose only concern is giving (of light and warmth) which means having no expectation of anything from anybody’ (mathew 5:44-48) .

  this also means we should have no human teachers because we can have answer to any questions by ourselves, through inference.

  (pro 25:2) how to go about inferring?

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  These thoughts arose in me when I saw many blaming God - Venus
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  Humans can have answers to any questions

  by venus in

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  2. beliefs

  god would not say: “you should not eat from the tree of good and bad, which would make you like me” because through jesus he said: ‘you must become like me by imitating the qualities of sun whose only concern is giving (of light and warmth) which means having no expectation of anything from anybody’ (mathew 5:44-48) .

  this also means we should have no human teachers because we can have answer to any questions by ourselves, through inference.

  (pro 25:2) how to go about inferring?

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  I'm sure if there was a creator of the universe he wouldn't need you or I to defend him Venus. Even he doesn't feel the need to defend himself. Why do you feel the need?
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  Humans can have answers to any questions

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  god would not say: “you should not eat from the tree of good and bad, which would make you like me” because through jesus he said: ‘you must become like me by imitating the qualities of sun whose only concern is giving (of light and warmth) which means having no expectation of anything from anybody’ (mathew 5:44-48) .

  this also means we should have no human teachers because we can have answer to any questions by ourselves, through inference.

  (pro 25:2) how to go about inferring?

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  I feel a deep respect and love towards God because He gives freedom to people even to deny His existence, and He never punishes them.

  So if your God feels this way why don't you copy him and stop preaching at us?
  
  
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  I am grateful for leaving the watchtower corporation. Innit!

  by punkofnice in

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  2. beliefs

  i dislike long topics......so here it is.. i suffered for my religion, now it's your turn.. when i first left the corporation my life exploded into a suicidal chaos.. my family broke up.

  i lost my so called friends.. luckily, i had worldly friends from all walks of life that supported me, even though they had no idea why i was so suicidal.

  in as much as they hadn't left cults.. i went from the corporation to a baptist church.

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  I agree with GreatTeacher it's liberating realising life is meaningless, I can make my own meaning, even if it's just having fun. I'm absolutely fine with that.

  I do believe in altruism Punky, people who give to starving kids or victims in war zones do it anonymously because they care. I know people go on about middle-class guilt but I don't buy that. A lot of good people in the world.

  I like the fact I don't have many Xmas presents to buy either Punky, silver linings eh?
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  Casting Out DEMONS

  by Cold Steel in

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  2. beliefs

  if someone believes they're being plagued with demons or they have problems with hauntings, things moving by themselves or hearing voices or footsteps, who they gonna call?

  i know they take demons very seriously, so who in the congregation do they go to when they need to bring out the big guns?

  do they try to handle it themselves or is this a job for the elders?

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  Why not come across as non-threatening?

  As Stephen Hawking keeps pointing out, why assume all alien life is friendly?
  
  
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  Casting Out DEMONS

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
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  if someone believes they're being plagued with demons or they have problems with hauntings, things moving by themselves or hearing voices or footsteps, who they gonna call?

  i know they take demons very seriously, so who in the congregation do they go to when they need to bring out the big guns?

  do they try to handle it themselves or is this a job for the elders?

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  Belief in demons and angels cast out by God is just superstition but why is it impossible that there are life forms in the universe that are invisible to the human eye and made of substances not yet fully understood by the laws of physics. This may explain a lot of the spirit, ghost, demon stories. Not all particles or forms of electromagnetic energy are visible to the naked eye.
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  Was It Really Mental Illness or Was It The Demons?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  we supposedly had more than a few “demonized” people in our congregation.

  they would hear voices or feel internal punishment within their souls.

  the answer was always—-these people were affected by the demons and they needed counseling!.

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  My Mum threw so much stuff out because of 'demons'. Some lovely blue and white china I remember which might have been Spode, handed down from her family. Clothes people gave us, which we really needed! All thrown out when she got the idea they were demonised. She could have sold that china and bought badly needed food for goodness sake, but no you can't hand the demons on to someone else, that's not Christian. Sigh!
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  "Jehovah's Witnesses' withheld info will cost them..."

  by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

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  2. child-abuse

  latest perspective of the san diego reader on wts loosing its $4000 per day sanction appeal.... https://m.sandiegoreader.com/news/2017/nov/10/ticker-jehovahs-witnesses-withheld-info-4000-day/?templates=mobile.

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  So have they been paying $4,000 per day for two years?
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  Another sex abuser

  by Honeybucket in

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  2. child-abuse

  i'm tyoing this up on my phone, so forgive me if i don't give all i do or spell anything correctly.

  today i saw in the local newspaper in skagit valley washington a local man was sentenced to prison for child pornography.

  at firat i wasn't i terested in the article until i saw the defendants name.

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  Is it repressive rules that trigger abberent behaviour?

  Diogenesister, the psychologist my husband and I went to see after we left the JWs listened to our description of the rules of this religion and said that kind of sexual repression often breeds child sexual abuse. We said not as far as we knew because in 1989 we didn't know what we know now!
  
  
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  Im new to the site. 28 years old, over 10 in exile. This is my story

  by Jayk in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it's bitter sweet to find a site like this..i was born in the truth.

  when i was 16 i given the option to stop going.

  father and mothers family are both witnesses.

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  Hi Jayk, welcome to the forum. Social anxiety is common after leaving that cult because we weren't allowed to talk about anything much except da troof. We were never properly socialised from childhood, never taught how to mix with other kids so we knew how to do it as adults. Hang in there, it gets better.