Posts by Xanthippe

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First Christmas without the guilt

by Apostate Anonymous in

i have lurked around the site for about 3 months and finally decided to join.

this will be my first time creating a topic here.

a little backstory for me.

Xanthippe

no buying useless presents which aren't appreciated. - rulehayl

You can always ask people what they'd like for Christmas, perhaps something they've been wanting but won't buy for themselves.

It was weird at first because I always have been a part of Christmas in some way...

That's sad if you've always been a part of it and now you feel weird. Feeling apart from others and weird around people during customary celebrations is not good for us psychologically. We need to feel included.

Apostate Anonymous, welcome to the forum. I'm glad you're having fun this holiday season and ditching the guilt imposed by that dangerous cult.

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Hollow earth

by Jrjw in

i thought the flat earth conspiracy theory was strange but ive just read an article about a new conspiracy theory that the earth is hollow and that its a paradise there and 8 foot tall intellectually advanced aliens live there who send space ships out every so often to check on mankind.

apparently lost viking colonies and nazis that fled there after world war 2 are living there immortally 🤣🤣 .

this world just gets better and better 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Xanthippe

Oh come on it's not that hard. Hollow earth full of Vikings and Nazis and what was it eight foot aliens. Surely you didn't spend more a second to decide if that was real?

I agree with sparrowdown, it's great to read whatever you like. Just realise there's a lot of weird ideas around. Ask yourself what's the source of this and what's their evidence. Do they have a vested interest in having this idea accepted? Are they biased?

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Human Rights Executive Order

by berrygerry in

speculation building.. thoughts?.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-blocking-property-persons-involved-serious-human-rights-abuse-corruption/.

Xanthippe

Wow he's going to seize the property of any foreign national individual or corporation he deems to have committed human rights abuses. Does that include manufacturers using sweat shops? This is so open to interpretation. Thanks for posting.

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Intro

by jc1985 in

jw
friends

hello all, many years i have been lurking on this site.

gradually i’ve learned the real truth, gone from serving as a servant and at bethel to inactive for almost a year, barely ever wasting time going to meetings.

my family is large and very active and so is my wife’s so leaving altogether is difficult.. though it seems now that everything is about to change.

Xanthippe

Welcome jc1985. Sorry you're going through a tough time. Keep talking and we'll help if we can.

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Merry Christmas

by jhine in

as non of you scrooges seem to want to wish anyone else merry christmas , l thought that l would drop in and wish you all .

merry christmas , happy holidays , feliz navidad , joyeux noel , and throw another shrimp on the barbie sheila .

why did the turkey want to join the band , because he had the drumsticks , boom boom .

Xanthippe

Why is Christmas just like your job?

You do all the work and the fat guy in the suit gets all the credit.

🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄

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Pacifism is Morally Indefensible

by cofty in

i have been surprised recently to see so much support by ex-jws for the watchtower's refusal to fight and kill.

in my opinion it is a vice masquerading as a virtue.

of course war should always be a last resort but there are occasions that it has to be done.

Xanthippe

Owning a firearm and shooting a burglar would get you in front of a JC

In this country it would get you in front of a judge and then on remand awaiting trial. It's happened, infantile or not.

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I know this shouldn’t bother me...but

by MTSman in

so i woke up this morning with nothing planned for the day.

i rolled out of bed around 9am and went to local mcky ds to get some breakfast, and lord and behold there was a group of jdubs sitting around eating and sipping on coffee, probable counting time.

anyway, i glanced over and recognized all of them and they glanced back at me.

Xanthippe

Is there anyone else that gets annoyed by people who act self righteous even though they really shouldn’t?

Yeah my brother did this to me at my uncle's funeral. My siblings ignored me at the crematorium but when we went back to my aunt's house I went in to the kitchen to help her of course while the JWs sat on their bums as usual. Did they expect her to feed them all on her own after her husband's funeral?

Anyway she kept asking me to go in and ask them what they wanted to drink and then what sandwiches they wanted, then what cake. My brother, the elder, looked at me as though I'd crawled out from under a stone. He didn't want to speak to me but seeing as I'd been put in charge of food what could he do!

He was getting angrier and angrier and redder and redder. I tell you it was all I could do not to laugh my head off. You've just got to enjoy their craziness. I thought he was going to explode! So funny!

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Christmas Eve Best Wishes To ALL of you .

by smiddy3 in

jw
friends

it`s christmas eve here in australia today and i wish all of you a very merry xmas simply because i can without being zapped , or hauled into a jc committee.. it doesn`t matter whether you are religious or not , i`m not now , however i can appreciate and respect those who do.. so whatever your views on the matter have a great day and enjoy the holidays in whatever grabs your fancy.. and if jw`s do come knocking on your door as they do this festive season wish them a merry xmas and anti-witness to them ..

Xanthippe

Happy Christmas to you Smiddy xx

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Encounter with a long time elder. (Jehovah's happy people)

by freddo in

jw
friends

so i'm at work and go to my vehicle parked outside the empty property i'm working at and an elderly man comes out of next door and we recognise each other from when we were elders in the same circuit.

he is early 80's in age, a jw since the 1960's and so the next generation in age up from me.. he's an outwardly jolly sort and asks how i am etc.

(knows i'm not an elder but thinks i'm pimi) and asks if i want a cup of tea so i go in and sit in his kitchen for my lunchbreak and have a chat.. i have a little fish around and ask about how jw's in his hall are.

Xanthippe

I see this in my siblings and a friend who got in touch a while ago. One sister has type two diabetes, the other has fibromyalgia and ME and my brother has piled on the weight and looks very depressed.

The friend, her husband is blind in one eye from neglecting glaucoma for a year and is still driving to do his work! She's struggling with doing housework for a living. They're both in their sixties.

All crying out for the new system, just living day by day waiting for J to put an end to their trouble. Yet I'm convinced all their illnesses are caused by the sheer exhaustion of following that religion! The solution is to quit the cult and live their own lives. Concentrate on looking after their health, earning a living and enjoying life as much as they can.

This religion creates problems for people so that it can then present them with a solution. Only without the religion there wouldn't be half the problems and they wouldn't be looking to the fantasy solution which never comes.

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A Former Jehovah's Witness shares her me too story

by LisaRose in

https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/16/a-former-jehovahs-witness-shares-her-metoo-story/.

when i was 23 years old, i started dating a (jehovah’s) witness boy and we’d go out to some dance clubs.

there was a night in particular where i had too much to drink.

Xanthippe

Evolution has such a long way to go before we are a species of civilized beings - OrphanCrow

Indeed it does, but I still hold out hope that humankind will make it.