under roman rule, which covered a large part of the civilized world around the mediterranean, to be a trouble maker or a magician or an insurrectionist was a capital offence.. to live back then in a civilised society was a boon.
naturally for the sake of law and order certain compliances had to be met to as part of the social bargain to be a roman citizen.
among them were included the requirement to respect the “genius” or spirit of the emperor, not to be an atheist and to respect the roman gods.
In a modern day example I always thought while I was still in that it was ridiculous for JWs to go to concentration camps instead of lying to the Nazis. Why would you have to tell the truth to monsters? Just sign the paper, say you no longer believe and go home. God was supposed to read your heart so what was the problem?
To my mind the problem with Christianity is it starts with a crucifixion and has nowhere to go but down.
it's a cold 13 degrees fahrenheit in tennessee this morning where i live.
glad i'm retired and don't have to work outside today.
what about where you live.
Yeah I know the A47 Punky. I got off a train from Manchester during the snow a couple of weeks ago. We'd had three inches of snow and the roads were at a standstill. Even though it had started snowing three hours before not a gritter in sight.
Luckily I'd booked a taxi from the station because all the taxis had gone home and people were trying to get in mine. It took him an hour to drive eight miles and I finally got home at midnight. Nightmare.
it's a cold 13 degrees fahrenheit in tennessee this morning where i live.
glad i'm retired and don't have to work outside today.
what about where you live.
It's 8 degrees centigrade and wet, wet, wet here in Leicestershire, UK. Not complaining though because at least there's no snow. When it snows in the UK the roads and trains come to a standstill.
There is never enough grit to clear the roads in this country and you take your life in your hands driving on ungritted icy roads. I've done it enough times, trying to get to work, hitting the brakes when skidding across the road and nothing happens, no brakes. Terrifying, so it can rain for me, I'm okay with rain in winter.
this is my first post, i will introduce myself later.
first of all, i must say that english is not my mother tongue (i'm spanish), so excuse me if i make any mistake.. do you think that some people simply can't cope with being outside the jws?
some of them are too worldlyphobic to be around non-jws, too dependent on a fixed set of rules in order to carry on with their lives, too dependent on the hope of paradise and resurrection, too unable to leave their personal comfort zone within the organization.
I have wondered this myself. My brother seemed very happy at bethel but the times that I stayed there all the bloody bells ringing to tell you what to do and when to do it would have driven me mad.
When I had to meet up with my siblings to dispose of our parents' house and sort financial matters it occurred to me that they are just not very bright, sad to say. Yet we come from the same gene pool.
There is a lot of truth in the theory that the basis for intelligence may be genetic but it's what you do with it after you're born that counts. They were also very paranoid about everyone we had to deal with from the parish council to house-clearing companies. They seemed to expect to be cheated and treated badly. I'm not sure they could cope with knowing the TTATT and living in the real world.
hi does anyone have any ideas of good places for me to make non jw friends when i move coz need to replace all my jw friends for my kids and i ready for becoming inactive.
I've made some good friends at meetup.com.
i have lurked around the site for about 3 months and finally decided to join.
this will be my first time creating a topic here.
a little backstory for me.
no buying useless presents which aren't appreciated. - rulehayl
You can always ask people what they'd like for Christmas, perhaps something they've been wanting but won't buy for themselves.
It was weird at first because I always have been a part of Christmas in some way...
That's sad if you've always been a part of it and now you feel weird. Feeling apart from others and weird around people during customary celebrations is not good for us psychologically. We need to feel included.
Apostate Anonymous, welcome to the forum. I'm glad you're having fun this holiday season and ditching the guilt imposed by that dangerous cult.
i thought the flat earth conspiracy theory was strange but ive just read an article about a new conspiracy theory that the earth is hollow and that its a paradise there and 8 foot tall intellectually advanced aliens live there who send space ships out every so often to check on mankind.
apparently lost viking colonies and nazis that fled there after world war 2 are living there immortally 🤣🤣 .
this world just gets better and better 🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Oh come on it's not that hard. Hollow earth full of Vikings and Nazis and what was it eight foot aliens. Surely you didn't spend more a second to decide if that was real?
I agree with sparrowdown, it's great to read whatever you like. Just realise there's a lot of weird ideas around. Ask yourself what's the source of this and what's their evidence. Do they have a vested interest in having this idea accepted? Are they biased?
speculation building.. thoughts?.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-blocking-property-persons-involved-serious-human-rights-abuse-corruption/.
Wow he's going to seize the property of any foreign national individual or corporation he deems to have committed human rights abuses. Does that include manufacturers using sweat shops? This is so open to interpretation. Thanks for posting.
hello all, many years i have been lurking on this site.
gradually i’ve learned the real truth, gone from serving as a servant and at bethel to inactive for almost a year, barely ever wasting time going to meetings.
my family is large and very active and so is my wife’s so leaving altogether is difficult.. though it seems now that everything is about to change.
Welcome jc1985. Sorry you're going through a tough time. Keep talking and we'll help if we can.
as non of you scrooges seem to want to wish anyone else merry christmas , l thought that l would drop in and wish you all .
merry christmas , happy holidays , feliz navidad , joyeux noel , and throw another shrimp on the barbie sheila .
why did the turkey want to join the band , because he had the drumsticks , boom boom .
Why is Christmas just like your job?
You do all the work and the fat guy in the suit gets all the credit.
🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄
