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  What to Do....Please Help. Awakening JW for a very long time

  by CovertsadJW in

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  good afternoon , .

  i have been having doubts for many years and as most jw's i have certainly not done myself a favor by suppressing all of my critical thinking.

  i am married with 3 kids and my wife and i are inactive, but my wife has made it very clear in speech and action that she wants to go to all meetings, field service, and indoctrinate our kids.

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  I also believe newly awakened JWs often have feelings of embarrassment and shame for even having considered anything against the JW religion ....These feelings are purposely programmed by WT to prevent JWs from reading, listening, viewing, thinking or speaking anything critical of the religion

  Incognito is right, the programming is very, very strong. Don't underestimate the mental manipulation of this cult.

  As an example even now after 29 years out I feel a moment's embarrassment at laughing at a dirty joke and I used to think it was because of our sexually repressed upbringing in the religion. Then I realised I was ashamed because we were taught not to laugh at anything sexual because it's a gift from God. All things are clean to clean people, blah blah, blah.

  I'm not sexually repressed now but still feel a slight pang of shame going against the JW programming. Believe me the mind control of this religion would surprise even the KGB.
  
  
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  Thank you, George Couch!

  by charonsdog in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i just thought i'd share this story from my past.. back in the 80s i remember the big problem seemed to be about music.

  (today, it's tight pants, i guess) the organization, society, whatever they were calling themselves, were always going on about the music we listened to.

  disco, heavy metal, the whole "backwards masking" thing...couldn't escape hearing or reading about how satan was corrupting us unless we were listening to kingdom melodies or elevator music.. i was assigned to wtf in the late 80s and remember one of the articles stating that "young people know that the rhythm of rock music is the rhythm of sexual intercourse.

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  Yeah I remember this. It was all about rock being based on African music which was all about sex, same rhythm or something. I don't know what those GB were doing in their private rooms but we could never keep up with African music and dance. Perhaps they had a little premature problem.
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  It’s My Anniversary!

  by jp1692 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  today is the four year anniversary of the last time i set foot in a kingdom hall.

  it was the day of the kool-aid issue of the wt!

  “at that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint.

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  Happy Anniversary jp1692. I'm glad you're no longer trapped in that dark dungeon of a cult.

  It will be twenty-nine years for me next month. It's been interesting.
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  What to Do....Please Help. Awakening JW for a very long time

  by CovertsadJW in

  1. social
  2. family

  good afternoon , .

  i have been having doubts for many years and as most jw's i have certainly not done myself a favor by suppressing all of my critical thinking.

  i am married with 3 kids and my wife and i are inactive, but my wife has made it very clear in speech and action that she wants to go to all meetings, field service, and indoctrinate our kids.

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  It sounds like cognitive dissonance is making her very angry, a battle is going on inside her. That doesn't makes the abusive behaviour any easier to take. Some great advice here CovertsadJW. All the best to you going forward.
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  The anonymity of Jehovah's Witness material

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  is it vital for credibility to have the name of the writer of an article referenced?.

  does this allow for honesty and accountability?

  does this assist in ensuring that whatever is presented is as factual as possible, or not biased in some way toward the religion's ideas?.

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  I can't believe that all these years they've got away with saying 'one scientist says' or 'one historian writes'. Nobody with any education would try and get away with writing an article like that. They have graduates and lawyers working for them. They didn't submit essays and dissertations without footnotes and bibliographies!
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  Why 2017 Was the Best Year in Human History

  by pseudoxristos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i found the following article to be a nice contrast to the jw's gloomy point of view.. why 2017 was the best year in human history.

  we all know that the world is going to hell.

  given the rising risk of nuclear war with north korea, the paralysis in congress, warfare in yemen and syria, atrocities in myanmar and a president who may be going cuckoo, you might think 2017 was the worst year ever.. but you’d be wrong.

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  Pseudoxristos, thank you! Charities around the world are helping people work their way out of poverty, providing clean drinking water, fighting disease by vaccinating children, building schools and so much more. Some of this is funded by rich donors and corporations but much of it is donated by ordinary people who care. It's a great world, I'm proud to be a citizen of it.
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  Subliminal Messages

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was watching a fascinating ted-ex video on hypnosis and hypnotism with a friend.

  my friend wondered if the jws new music might have a hypnotic suggestion buried somewhere in it which gets everyone in attendance to listen and absorb stuff that is totally irrational for the entire program.

  ending with a second subliminal message in the final song along the lines of "you will snap out of this state when you next hear the word amen.

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  More likely JWs are in a trance state on a day to day basis. Psychologists say many people live in a kind of trance, not thinking deeply about anything, not being self-reflective about their actions, just going with the flow.
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  Would You Go To A Memorial Service For A JW )if you were no longer attending the KH)?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some of my old jw friends are sickly and getting on in age.

  so far, i’ve only gone to my mother’s memorial and have avoided the kingdom hall altogether.... your thoughts please?.

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  Going to my mother's funeral at the KH I grew up in was awful. My childhood friend was there with her parents even though she'd moved away. She kept away from me. Lots of other faces I recognised but they all avoided me.

  I honestly don't know if I want to go through another KH funeral service. Even when my siblings pass away. Is that terrible? None of us know how we'll feel until it happens I suppose. Do they want me around, will my being there help? I mean if it doesn't help them and it doesn't help me what's the point?
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  My 71st Birthday Confessional

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. jw
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  i was born january 15, 1947in mt.

  carmel hospital, detroit, michigan.. within six months of my birth, my mother would bundle her baby boy into a blanket and board an american airlines propeller-driven plane--in effect, leaving my father behind--to return to her hometown, ft. worth, texas.. my dad had an excellent job working for cadillac as an inspector.

  it was a union job.

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  Happy Birthday Terry for tomorrow. I get the over-compensation thing, it makes it difficult to make friends. I think everyone's life is a raggedy-ass drama of survival. It's a difficult planet, but what a ride!
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  Are You An Angry Exjw At This Point In Your Life?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i’ve been here for many years.

  the tone seems to be different in this place.

  not so many pissed off exjws .

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  Nope, I'm not angry at the pitiful bastards who believe, as Jackson said, they're going to be with Jesus soon. Jesus! What delusional ****+*

  I'm just getting everything ready for my next trip, to India. Living well is the best revenge.