Welcome fm to you and your wife, good to have you here. Looking forward to hearing your story but only when you're ready.
Xanthippe
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New introduction
by formerministerial inhello to all of you,.
here goes an introduction of a new member.
i'm 45 years old now and we wake up my wife and i from borg a few years ago.. i'm living between spain and france, due to my work.. it has been always refreshing to listen and read many of you here.. i hope it will continue the same..
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Long time no see
by caballoSentado inhi friends,.
checking the board after a long time... here is an update (my native language is spanish, so bear with me)... my daugter is now 18 and officially a commercial pilot!, she got her dreams fulfilled... my oldest son (an industrial engineer) in living and working for a big bank in canada (toronto) after studying a master in admnistration there, and my other son is doing very well and now owns two companies (he studied economics in one of the best universities in my country, perú)... i have just returned from a travel all over europe with my dear wife (30 days, 12 countries and 20+ cities)... so we left the jw in 2001 over the un scandal... and here we are.
have a nice day all of you.
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Xanthippe
What a success story after leaving the cult, your children are doing great!
Sounds like a fantastic European tour (30 days, 12 countries and 20+ cities) wow! I love travelling, it really does broaden the mind doesn't it?
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Do you remember when you realised it was all bulls£&t
by moley ini remember when my faith left me.
i used to enjoy meetings and used to participate but then all of a sudden i was finding myself bored shitless at meetings.
i was taken off the theocratic ministry school for not attending when i was due to give a talk and not long after did something naughty and got disfellowshiped.
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Xanthippe
In 1989 when we found Crisis of Conscience in the public library, read it until 2am.
Suddenly realised it wasn't a local problem!
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Faders Needing a Great One Liner
by Solzhenitsyn inso our family fade is well under way.
we changed congregations as regular attenders and left in good standing with those giving hugs and kisses simply knowing we "needed a change".
we moved to a neighboring congregation that is out of our original region knowing we would see no one and the two boe's wouldn't really have immediate dealings.
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Xanthippe
You could say, 'the last time we went in field service I tried to explain overlapping generations to a university professor and he said come back when you understand it. Can you help me with that?'
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If Angels in the Bible are of neuter gender ? Then why are they always depicted as males by description and name ? And never a female ?
by smiddy3 inin all of the art i`ve seen in christendom, angels always have the form of a male, and in the bible those that are named always have a male name such as michael ,gabriel , etc, .
nowhere in the art world that i have seen do angels have the female form, and in the bible they don`t have female names.. so if the angels are neither male or female why then are they depicted as males with male names ?and not female also ?.
the watchtower illustrators also follow this line .when they illustrate an angel it is always in the form of a male and never a female form.. the anointed who make up the 144000 comprise of male and females right ?
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Xanthippe
I think you'll find the older statues and paintings of angels aren't actually meant to be female even though they have flowing gowns and long hair, they don't have breasts. If you look at the baby cherubs, known as putti, in renaissance art they have feminine faces and flowing curly hair but as they're naked you can see they're male.
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The gullibility has no bounds with these people
by nowwhat? intalking to a couple old friends and like many are not too pleased with the k.h.
selloffs and being squeezed into another hall.
" oh well the organization needs the funds to build all the k.h's in africa where all the growth is".
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Xanthippe
Also they are mentally shying away from considering the thought it might be a cult because how does a person come back from shunning a sister, a child or a parent for decades and say, eh sorry I was wrong.
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Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Bother You At All?
by minimus ini faded from the religion and simply didn’t go back.
once people understood that my family and i left, people in the congregation didn’t know what to do.
should they call me, visit me, leave me alone?
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Xanthippe
Do JWs bother you at all?
Maybe it's just me but it seems like an odd question. Isn't that why we're here, because they bother us?
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How to be happier every day.
by Lost in the fog inthe messages contained in these two books for children are quite profound and can be taken on board no matter what age you are.
book reviews @tes.com.
https://www.tes.com/news/two-tips-kids-books-being-happy.
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Xanthippe
I like the 'am I hoarding thoughts?' exercise. We need to decide which thoughts to keep and which to bin. Good point.
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Hilarious article on Sentinelese in today's Guardian
by LoveUniHateExams ini say 'hilarious' because it shows the guardian's ridiculous bias.. this article is dripping with noble savage hippy-ness.. nearly all contact with outsiders have been violent.. here's an excerpt about one of the two 1991 visits that were non-violent: “they are a peace-loving people,” tn pandit, an anthropologist who conducted one of the first successful meetings with the tribe in 1991, told an indian news outlet this week.. and here's what wikipedia has to say about it: 'on later visits, pandit's boats were confronted by sentinelese who turned their backs, which pandit took as a sign their visit was not welcome; but they were able to leave gifts, which islanders came to take.
he observed that the men carried bows and arrows, but the women did not.
on one visit in 1991 the islanders took coconuts from the hands of pandit's party, but would not allow them to enter the island'.
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Xanthippe
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_savage
This is the view I was taught at university, that noble savage was the romanticised view in the 18th and 19th centuries of indigenous peoples. That it refered to American Indians etc., the sentimentalised view that before civilisation man was intrinsically good and the industrial revolution and progress took man away from the earth and corrupted him.
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If Angels in the Bible are of neuter gender ? Then why are they always depicted as males by description and name ? And never a female ?
by smiddy3 inin all of the art i`ve seen in christendom, angels always have the form of a male, and in the bible those that are named always have a male name such as michael ,gabriel , etc, .
nowhere in the art world that i have seen do angels have the female form, and in the bible they don`t have female names.. so if the angels are neither male or female why then are they depicted as males with male names ?and not female also ?.
the watchtower illustrators also follow this line .when they illustrate an angel it is always in the form of a male and never a female form.. the anointed who make up the 144000 comprise of male and females right ?
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Xanthippe
Xanthippe: That's Pixar's Merida from Brave - neat blue dog
Yeah well can you find a female angel image that isn't soft porn?