the humanist organisation in the uk wants to protect non-religious people who leave their church/religion from being punished for doing so.
they want the religious hate crime legislation in the uk to be extended to people who are not religious.
i hope they will succeed.
Shunning is not a crime.
No but inciting to hate is. Congregations in the UK have to be careful what they say about disfellowshipped people. It's my understanding that's why they changed the announcement from 'conduct unbecoming a Christian' to 'no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses'.
the humanist organisation in the uk wants to protect non-religious people who leave their church/religion from being punished for doing so.
they want the religious hate crime legislation in the uk to be extended to people who are not religious.
i hope they will succeed.
'Humanists UK wants the definition of hate crime to be extended to people who are non-religious to ensure that laws forbidding religious hate crimes equally include those with non-religious beliefs.'
Interesting because I'm responsible for reporting a hate incident on the website if a library customer asks me to. You could feasibly report a JW for verbally abusing you in the street now because of your change of belief, especially if you've started attending a different church.
You can do it on the website or in a public library.
we had our first family thanksgiving gathering this last thursday with our youngest sons family.
before we started to eat we went around the table saying what we were thankful for.
what our granddaughter had to say brought tears to our eyes.
Beautiful sentiment StillTotallyADD. Look how many you've saved from that cult!
Lovely photo Iown Mylife.
the old creation book had a lot to say about the fossil record.
if i remember correctly it was some lie about all the fossils ever found would fit on a single table.
the reality is that there is an embarrassment of riches illustrating the evolution of life.
If I remember correctly it was some lie about all the fossils ever found would fit on a single table.
Yes, that's the line I specifically remember. Just a few teeth and tiny bones. When my husband and I found books on fossils at the library we were shocked at the lies we'd been told.
at 95 , queen elizabeth is one sharp lady.
she lauded those people that helped break up a terrorist attack.
she didn’t take any crap from prince andrew and told him to take a hike.
She works very hard and takes her duty very seriously. Princess Anne is another hard worker, she attended 447 UK engagements last year, more than the days in the year! Sounds exhausting.
Sophie, Edward's wife is patron of Childline which is a fantastic charity to give children who've been abused someone to call.
I didn't realise all this until I did a project on UK charities for an exhibition at work some years ago and found out the royal family are patrons of more than 2,000 charities.
does criticism or opposition to the israeli government's zionist agenda legitimately constitute someone being branded as an anti-semite?.
is it this definition which is actually being targetted at certain members of the labour party?
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Thanks Cofty. I will explore all of those. Speaking of bias, I'm not sure I would set great store by the words of a man's estranged wife but we shall see.
does criticism or opposition to the israeli government's zionist agenda legitimately constitute someone being branded as an anti-semite?.
is it this definition which is actually being targetted at certain members of the labour party?
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See 'The Lefts Jewish Problem' by David Rich for a thorough account of the history and depth of this issue and for evidence of Corbyn's personal culpability.
Thanks Cofty I've been wanting to ask you for some sources on Corbyn, I would genuinely like to do some research on him.
I had no idea there was an institute for the study of anti-Semitism within Birkbeck.
The first thing that occurs to me is to look for bias and vested interests of course because that's how I studied my history degree. However that's where sources for Corbyn's own words and actions will be useful for me, so thanks.
does criticism or opposition to the israeli government's zionist agenda legitimately constitute someone being branded as an anti-semite?.
is it this definition which is actually being targetted at certain members of the labour party?
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I watched the Andrew Neil interview yesterday and he did refuse to apologise for not taking swifter action against anti-Semitic comments. I thought why doesn't he just do it? Then I remembered that most politicians would say something like, I'm sorry that people feel that way, I'm sorry people were offended. Would that have any value?
For that matter would an unreserved apology and promise it would never happen again have any value? Journalists with their broken record technique just strike me as stupid and childish sometimes.
if someone lacks belief is that somehow mean he’s done in their eyes and no way back?
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Is a JW condemned for lack of belief in the Bible as gods word?
Yes because faith is a prerequisite for being a spiritual person. I remember asking at a pioneer school session, so we believe because we want to believe? Because this is what the section on faith seemed to be saying.
The girl sitting next to me jokingly called me an apostate. It doesn't take long for a joke like that to become an accusation in front of three elders. Remember what a JW believes is straight from God through his faithful slave.
It's all down to interpretation of that ancient book as any other Abrahamic religion is but to them the interpretation is really straight from Holy Spirit. How can you argue with Holy Spirit ......
having a conversation with a pimi elder and i asked him how he deals with the fact that he never expected to get old.
i get the feeling that some dubs still have the original generation explanation hard-wired, even though they claim to accept the new version.
so my question is, how old do you have to be to be considered old?
I get what you're saying Joey, this pimi JW doesn't want to acknowledge he's been waiting for the paradise his whole life and now he's well into middle age. If he's says he doesn't feel old then Armageddon is not delayed, the GB aren't lying.
It's not surprising that he's talking about how he feels because the whole religion is about appealing to people's emotions but as you say ten years down the line if health problems kick in it might be a different story.
