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  would it have been different if we knew why?

  by sowhatnow in

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  i always took issue with the idea of no one knowing why a person got df.. i know im not alone.. i complained to my mother about this when i was younger, explaining that how do we know what it is that gets a person df if no one knows what they did?

  my moms answer was , .

  'if people knew a persons personal faults and what they did , others would not be so forgiving when they were reinstated, because we'd always view them with that view, so in other words, if when so n so, committed fornication, and the whole cong would know it, if they announced from the platform then his/her reputation would be permanently stained' .

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  Someone was disfellowshipped and condemned to death at the big A for being a hoarder????

  Can't even process that! Surely it's a sign of mental illness?

  Just noticed hoser said the same, I wish I could read
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  Freudian slip in this weeks WT study!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  oh....ok....hahaha...did anyone else pick up on this classic stuff up in the wt for the weekend of 21/22 feb?.

  after speaking about the destruction of sodom and gomorrah, paragraph 6 says:.

  "only lot and his daughters, who stuck close to him, survived".

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  The video is funny but I never thought of it that way that all his wife did was turn around and BAM salt, he screws both his daughters and nothing - Freemindfade

  Yeah obedience without question or you will be destroyed, but incest, meh, not so bad.

  Monotheism just had nowhere to go from there did it?
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  People calling me... >.<

  by Garrett in

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  2. friends

  oh my god!.

  it is currently almost midnight where i live and i have now been spammed 3 times in a row by an unknown number.

  first my home phone and then my cell phone.

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  Xanthippe

  I still occasionally get those calls where I pick the phone up and no-one speaks. After 26 years they want to know if I still live here. Crazy cultists.
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  "Laughter trumps fear every time" - another method to chip away at WT's authority?

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  saw this article on slate.. it got me thinking - the wts are certainly providing lots of ammunition for spoofing.

  talks about tight pants, singing trolleys, rubber faced buffoonery from lett...... what if we start encouraging jws to laugh at their leadership, instead of kowtowing in reverential awe?.

  from the article:.

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  Xanthippe

  Slightly off topic, but I just wondered if you are still an elder Sir82? Just looked at your bio note. You said ten years ago you were an elder and staying in for your wife. Just curious, no big deal. I have a brother who is an elder and I often wonder if he is staying in for his wife who is also a 'born in'.
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  How many JWs really believe the end will come "soon"?

  by BU2B in

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  2. friends

  this topic has been on my mind lately.

  i have been looking around at jws and wondering how many truly believe the end is as near as they are told.

  from my personal experience, i know that my parents fully believe the end is imminent and may come any time now.

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  Xanthippe

  A JW friend of my husbands started writing to me out of the blue after we were out for many years. She said last year her husband, who has glaucoma, should have gone to the hospital for an eye test and the appointment didn't come through when they expected it. So what did they do, nothing. They just left it, didn't contact the hospital. They were 'busy'. Now he has almost gone blind in one eye.

  I used to take my father to the hospital for his glaucoma tests, we never missed an appointment! I couldn't believe what she wrote. They are working away on a new KH and also putting up workers in their home, and both having to earn a living after sixty. Sounds exhausting but I would say anyone who missed hospital appointments when they could go blind really believes in the end coming "soon" and thinks working for the WTS is more important than their health.

  I said as much to her when I wrote about the convention talk last summer some guys posted on here. It said they have to put the Kingdom first and food, family and health must come second. Looks like they are following that advice.
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  Approached by a young JW on the street

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just a quick line, since this is the first time it happens to me and i could now see with my very own eyes.

  the scene went like this, on the outside of a large store.. truck stops and a young boy, about 16, no more than 18 years old walks out.

  comes up to me, pulls out a track and says.

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  It is so hard to keep track of one's tracts these days, I find.
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  Does everyone here know they are on record with JW's forever?

  by runForever in

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  2. friends

  richard ashe a full-time special servant of the order of jehovah's witnesses testified in the lopez case that every single disfellowshipping and disassociation and other things have all been scanned in 2011 and are and will be on permanent record with jw's forever.

  is this legal?

  another completely ironic and warped thing is the disfellowshipping form is called the s77 form.

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  Dear xanthippe, no , he simply had got fed up by the time he got his stuff back, with the whole fight the WT/JW Org bit, and as I say, wanted to just cut all ties, even mentally.
  I say more power to him, he is now just a normal bloke, getting on with life.
  One thing it brought home to me was the weakness of the D.P Law, although they sent back all that they wanted to, there is no proof they still do not hold copies of those documents ( not that they matter in fact), and they simply did not acknowledge the existence of the more sensitive stuff, S77 etc, and there is no easy way to get them to do so.
  As you say, it would be possible to pursue it with Legal help, but again, would they actually destroy copies of files ? who would check up ?

  
  

  Yes I don't blame him wanting to put the whole WTS nonsense behind him and move on. I suppose a person who did want to follow it up could get their solicitor to write a letter stating that as there were over a hundred witnesses to the statement being read out in the KH then the written copy of the S77 form obviously exists and should be forwarded forthwith etc etc. Headquarters would not know who would be willing to speak up out of those who were present at the announcement would they?

  Interesting that they deliberately withheld the form. Shows they are worried about the whole disfellowshipping thing doesn't it?
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  God does exist here is my nonbiblical reason:

  by Curious Kitten in

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  2. experiences

  (before you read i hope no one gets offended by the word retarted...that s how i thought when i was 13)my mom and dad are divorced and my father never helped my mother on raising us, so basically she was a single-mother.

  he just abandoned my three brothers and me and my mother had to work two jobs all of the time so we never got to see her.

  when we did see her it was after school, but all she did was yell at us, make food, and leave to her next job.

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  Xanthippe

  Drugs, when properly used, are awesome. This is not an example of proper use.

  
  

  Oh do expand on this statement please Viviane.
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  Does everyone here know they are on record with JW's forever?

  by runForever in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  richard ashe a full-time special servant of the order of jehovah's witnesses testified in the lopez case that every single disfellowshipping and disassociation and other things have all been scanned in 2011 and are and will be on permanent record with jw's forever.

  is this legal?

  another completely ironic and warped thing is the disfellowshipping form is called the s77 form.

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  Dera Xanthippe, you are right about the Data Protection Act, the only problem is that it has no teeth if they appear to comply.
  A friend of mine sent off for his stuff, and got back quite a lot of Info, including even the confidential Report done on him whilst at Ministerial Servants School, he got great marks ! but what they did not divulge or return, or even acknowledge having, was the S77 Disfellowshipping form, or any other info. they may have had about his J.C.
  This info. which in years to come could be quite damaging to a person, they obviously intend to keep in perpetuity, and in defiance of the Law. - Phizzy

  Did he ask a solicitor if he could do anything else Phizzy?

  
  

  
  
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  what are the necessary/more important things?

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i always wondered what exactly they were.

  now i cant find the right scripture, but its not those spoken of in acts.

  15 vs 29, maybe it was the more important things?

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  Xanthippe

  John_Mann shows how WTS does it. Cherry pick the parts of whatever verses you like. Add a few...... And hey presto this is the solemn word of god. Lol.