Posts by Xanthippe

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New grandson!

by mimimimi in

our youngest son and his wife (matt and star) welcomed a baby boy yesterday at 7:04 p.m. ivan tomas, 7 lbs.

11 oz., 20 1/4" long.

he is their second child.

Xanthippe

What a lovely baby, wishing you all joy. 🍼💖

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If you were told today you would die next week, would you be happy and fine with that?

by EndofMysteries in

jw
friends

i don't know how so many who seem to be certain this life is it after being jw's seem to happily accept it and be fine with it.

i am living and trying to live as if this is it.

i want there to be a future life/afterlife, something, but i see how fast life comes and goes and even if i'm living it to the fullest, there is no peace for me with the thought this may be it.

If you were told today you would die next week, would you be happy and fine with that?

by EndofMysteries in

jw
friends

i don't know how so many who seem to be certain this life is it after being jw's seem to happily accept it and be fine with it.

i am living and trying to live as if this is it.

i want there to be a future life/afterlife, something, but i see how fast life comes and goes and even if i'm living it to the fullest, there is no peace for me with the thought this may be it.

EoM I like you, you have an interesting mind, you like to travel, I still remember those pictures of you by the pyramids. You beat me to it, I still want to get to Egypt. That's why I don't want to die next week. I also want to see the sun rise over the Taj Mahal and the Himalaya. Death holds no fear for me but this is not the place. PM me if you like. Xx

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Did Jehovah really order the excution of men, women, and children in the land of Canaan?

by John Aquila in

i been researching information on why the the conquest of canaan could not be a real historical account.

i found this on barts blog:.

when considering the historicity of the narratives of joshua, the first thing to re-emphasize is that these are not accounts written by eyewitnesses or by anyone who knew an eyewitness.

Xanthippe

Yeah I think the clue in the book of Joshua is they marched around the city of Jericho, blew trumpets and the walls fell down. Therefore a legend? I would say so.

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Are JWs trying to make dysfunctional kids and destroy their ability to live normal lives?

by C0ntr013r in

are jws trying to make dysfunctional kids that wont "fit" in normal society so they will "return to jehovah"?

because there have been many stories about young people who have been out in the world only to find how bad it was and how correct the org was.. a good jw kid with "good" jw parents will have many big issues, some examples:.

fear of demons (fear, misfit).

Xanthippe

It is a deliberate policy to isolate kids from normal society. Just as when people study with JWs and are told that if their relatives and friends don't accept the 'truth' they are to withdraw from them and only mix with the congregation.

They are doing the same with the kids, making them seem odd and strange to kids at school and in the neighbourhood, not joining in with sports, holidays, parties. Once they are weird and lacking in confidence and social skills they have to keep running back to the congregation for 'acceptance', if you can call it that.

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40 Years Old Today

by azor in

i celebrated my birthday for the first time today at 40 years old.

my wife was great.

she and some of my coworkers surprised me at lunch.

Xanthippe

Happy Birthday. They say life begins at forty because we finally work out what to do with it so you are just in time learning TTATT. Enjoy! 🎈🎉🎂🎁🍹

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Happy ending for this mother!

by The Searcher in

puts a smile on your face!

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http://web.de/magazine/panorama/polizei-enten-rettet-30752528.

Xanthippe

We are not quackers when we say the world is full of caring people. Thanks, The Searcher, lovely story.

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Who was Jesus?

by Coded Logic in

who/what do you think jesus was?

and how did you arrive at that conclusion?

Xanthippe

We have the writings of the 'Christians' claiming this person actually lived to validate their beliefs and religious fervour. Obviously an academic historian would say there is bias and a vested interest before you start looking for provenance of those writings.

Then we have Tacitus who describes Nero blaming the Christians for burning Rome and Christus receiving the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius. That's it apart from Josephus talking about the existence of Christians. Tacitus wrote about sixty years after Jesus supposedly lived. He apparently had access to the Senate records but there is no proof of that. It's like someone trying to write an accurate account of WWII now. Very difficult. My parents were children during that war and they are dead. Who did he talk to about this Jesus? They didn't have the kind of records a historian could use now.

There has been a long tradition of creating a mythical hero for an actual time period and series of events. For example Aeneas, described in Homer and Virgil became the founder of Rome, the first true Roman after fleeing from the destruction of Troy.

Was he real, did he live? We have found the ruins of Troy and Rome remains today. Homer and Virgil wrote about him. The clues are all there. He was the the son of a Trojan prince and the goddess Venus/ Aphrodite. The context of his story; Cyclops and Sirens, gods and goddesses in Homer. In Virgil he is an ancestor of Romulus and Remus, babies raised by wolves.

Do the same with Jesus. Born of a god and a virgin. The Bible context of miracles, talking animals, giants and demons.

Who do I think Jesus was? Probably a conglomeration of Jewish messiahs. Preachers who had the messiah complex and wanted to save their people from the Roman occupation. Pieces of different stories mixed together and validated with real events, places and people just as all good legends are.

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JW's came to my door 6 weeks ago. I told them I was inactive.......

by Alchemist in

6 weeks ago some jws came to my door.

i've been inactive for 8 years.

after they gave their presentation i told them i was inactive.

Xanthippe

What I am most ashamed of from being a JW is not giving to charity. In the eighties when we were bombarded with pictures of starving children and skeletal babies we were told at the KH give your money to the WTS. They quoted Jesus saying the poor are always wth you or some such nonsense.

If I could turn the clock back and be a part of that outpooring of compassion that was Band Aid and Live Aid I would. Even hardened journalists were moved to tears but not the GB. They don't care about humanity Alchemist. JWs are just waiting for humanity to die so they can have their houses.

I'm sorry you are not well at the moment Alchemist, I do sympathise but please be assured the world is full of compassionate people trying to help their fellow man. Don't be depressed about the world, good people are doing what they can. JWs are doing what they are told which is give their money to a publishing and real estate company which dares to criticise others for materialism!

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How do you feel about exJW's who resist our efforts to effect change?

by nicolaou in

i've met a few.

i'm not talking about the jw who, whether df'd or not, falls off the radar and just gets on with living a normal life - good luck to them and may there be many more!.

i mean the former jehovah's witness who is now enjoying all the benefits of a cult free life thanks to the efforts of many bloggers, posters and activists, but is critical of the efforts of someone close them to free more jws.

Xanthippe

I admire those that blog and youtube although I don't have time for it myself. I would never criticise them. Sometimes the reason people keep quiet about their past is because most people just don't get it. They look at you oddly if you say your family will not be getting together with you at Xmas or whatever. You can see them thinking, you must have done something, it can't be just religion.