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  The right to shun - wrong?

  by Simon in

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  many people are understandably upset and angry at the notion that jws have the right to shun people.

  it seems such an obvious "no brainer" cruel and inhuman thing to do - it must be wrong ... surely?.

  of course we look at things from the perspective of those hurt and harmed by shunning.

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  It's different for every family isn't it? Mine don't use the necessary family business except for funerals. They could stretch a point much more if they wanted to but I think they choose not to because they still want to punish me.

  From what I read some of the guys on here have family that go above and beyond the WTS rules because they are naturally people who hold a grudge.

  I do agree with Simon that there is a certain amount of choice here and some families seem to inflict pain because that's the way they have decided to be in their lives.
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  Witnesses - Ever Wondered Why You're So Tired After Assemblies/Meetings?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
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  recently shared this with me.. they compared the tiredness they felt after attending an assembly and meetings, and noted how much worse it was than actually working and studying hard for hours for their secular employment!

  why were they so exhausted after an assembly/meeting?

  no, it wasn't satan.

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  Xanthippe

  I feel sorry for the people with small kids, trying to get them to sit still and be quiet for seven hours must be exhausting.
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  What's with all the pyramids??

  by Crazyguy in

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  the number of pyramids in the world just keep going up and up.

  an egyptoligist thinks using satellite scanning technology he has found the remnants of another 17 pyramids in the egypt.

  in central and south american they keep finding more pyramids and in java a couple of years ago they surmised that the riuns their was actually a step pyramid possible the oldest in the world.

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  Haven't done any reading on this since I studied ancient Egypt for a project at school but I thought ancient cultures built pyramids to get closer to God or gods.

  Whether to get worshippers at a religious site closer to gods and heaven or to get the deceased who was buried inside it closer to the afterlife. It seemed natural for ancient peoples to think gods were up in the sky because they certainly weren't down here.
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  The right to shun - wrong?

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  many people are understandably upset and angry at the notion that jws have the right to shun people.

  it seems such an obvious "no brainer" cruel and inhuman thing to do - it must be wrong ... surely?.

  of course we look at things from the perspective of those hurt and harmed by shunning.

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  I think not only is it impossible to legislate against as you say but it is also a deep-seated human instinct to stop talking to people you believe are toxic.

  The ancient Greeks used the otracon, pieces of broken pottery on which a person's name would be scratched that were then counted up to see how many have voted to banish a person. If the vote was unfavourable the individual would be exiled for ten years from Athens. It's where we get the word ostracise from.

  The WTS are cruelly exploiting and abusing an ancient and instinctive human response to perceived threat from other humans. I agree the thing to focus on is to convince our loved ones we are not dangerous and they are not going to save us by shunning because we are never coming back!
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  Derby people?

  by KingofDerby in

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  2. experiences

  hope this is the right place for it but.... wondering if there are people i used to know who are out these days.... i was in the derby peartree cong, and the derby littleover cong.

  left in the early-mid 00s.

  dad was known all over the place..

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  Xanthippe

  Hello King, I grew up in Spondon congregation.
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  THIS IS JUST CLASSIC

  by Sabin in

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  2016 years text.. hebrews 13:1, let your brotherly love continue.. wtf!

  your thought please.

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  Just remember having one telephone conversation with my sister about what was wrong in the WTS and that we were were thinking of leaving. Before I finished she interrupted with, well if you do neither I nor my husband will ever speak to you again.

  Like flicking a switch they decide who to love and who to stop loving in a matter of minutes. If that's brotherly love I'd rather have normal humanity.
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  My Mother Died Two Weeks Ago

  by Perry in

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  2. friends

  none of my jehovah's witness relatives called to tell me or my family.

  just found out this morning.

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  Perry that's really awful, I'm so sorry. Losing your mother is a very deep hurt and it has been made unnecessarily more painful by heartless people. My thoughts are with you.
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  Does Anyone Have Knowledge About Follicular B Cell Lymphoma and Blood Transfusions?

  by jamiebowers in

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  2. medical

  from what i've read, platelet and red blood cell levels are usually severely lowered during traditional treatment for this type of cancer.

  is this correct?

  and if so, are platelets and red blood cells now part of the watch tower approved fractions?

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  I'm so sorry you're going through this. I don't know if this is any use to you but my cousin has a condition where she has developed a very low platelet count, dangerously low, she could bleed to death if she cuts herself. She has been treated with steroids which has brought the count up over a number of months.
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  New member checking in

  by Old Major in

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  2. friends

  been reading for about 2 and a half years, thought i would take the plunge and sign up.. my circumstances... i live in uk, serving as ms. i am fully awake.

  i can not leave due to family, so just treating the meetings as a bit of a social club.

  i would like to give out more details, but i think you all know the drill.. complete disillusionment and i suppose natural curiosity woke me up.. don't know what else to say right now, just hello, and i hope to get to know some of you guys better.

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  Welcome to freedom of mind Old Major, from Leicestershire.

  Old Major, Animal Farm?
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  First thoughts on "new" meeting...

  by konceptual99 in

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  had a quick look at the workbook and flicked through the sample meeting video.. the increased use of video shows the trend for more centralised dissemination of "best practice" .

  sure there isn't really a "school" any more and the format is a bit different but i think those that called it as the same old crap just in new package got it pretty much right.

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  So first they say there will be no student talks but apparently the 'brother' was counselled. So does this mean women are being removed from the platform altogether if they're not giving student talks?