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  The GB know it's all lies and wants to dismantle the WTS ... then what?

  by Simon in

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  2. beliefs

  so imagine the gb have a sudden attack of honesty and realize "crap, this whole thing is lies - we're not god's spokespeople at all !".

  how do you dismantle a religion that has +8 million members in a responsible way?

  you can't just publish a watchtower saying "we were wrong" because that would be irresponsible - you need to let people down gently, put people off gradually.

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  I think it's quite easy to imagine my possible scenario without the GB feeling they are being dishonest turning it into just a religion and still allowing the R+F to finance their lifestyle. After all the party line they are feeding them now is well whenever the paradise comes it is still the best, most moral, most happifying way of life.

  Even if they think they've got the prophecies and the timing all wrong and they're not the spokesman of God they could still believe they deserve a comfortable lifestyle for giving people the best religion on earth. As for the rest, they might think, whenever Armageddon will come, we'll leave that to Jeho....whatever his name should be.
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  The GB know it's all lies and wants to dismantle the WTS ... then what?

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so imagine the gb have a sudden attack of honesty and realize "crap, this whole thing is lies - we're not god's spokespeople at all !".

  how do you dismantle a religion that has +8 million members in a responsible way?

  you can't just publish a watchtower saying "we were wrong" because that would be irresponsible - you need to let people down gently, put people off gradually.

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  or loosen them to make people less devoted and zealous?

  Well I would get rid of the midweek book study; call the TMS our life and ministry reducing emphasis on preaching; reduce conventions to one day; make FS into just standing around handing out leaflets instead of stressful d2d work and turn it into a TV evangelist religion to keep regular money coming in.

  Then it's well on the way to becoming just a religion with church on Sunday and my position as a GB celebrity would be securely financed in my brand new out of town home in beautiful landscaping for the rest of my days. Oh .......
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  You Are Unsuitable!

  by Divergent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today's text -.

  sunday, january 24. they collected the fine ones into containers, but the unsuitable they threw away.—matt.

  13:48.. understanding the lesson of this illustration helps us to avoid being overly distraught or disappointed if a bible student or one of our children does not make the truth his own.

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  avoid being overly distraught or disappointed if a Bible student or one of our children does not make the truth his own."

  Revolting mind control. If you don't hate your children who reject the cult you will be destroyed. Somebody please tell these inhuman monsters that normal people love their children more than any sodding beliefs.
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  Where Are You From?

  by finallysomepride in

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  alot of members don't have a flag or country name beside their user name, and well frequently one doesn't know where that particular person is from, tell us your country, state, county or what ever you feel like giving out.

  if you are going to post please at least devulge your country.. me, i'm originally from taranaki, new zealand via auckland.

  for the most of this decade i have been living & working in brisbane, queensland, australia.. .

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  Xanthippe

  You have been away awhile. Nice new avatar!
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  Where Are You From?

  by finallysomepride in

  1. jw
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  alot of members don't have a flag or country name beside their user name, and well frequently one doesn't know where that particular person is from, tell us your country, state, county or what ever you feel like giving out.

  if you are going to post please at least devulge your country.. me, i'm originally from taranaki, new zealand via auckland.

  for the most of this decade i have been living & working in brisbane, queensland, australia.. .

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  Hey there finallysomepride! I missed you.
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  No more pain sorrow or crying in new system!!!!!!!

  by atomant in

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  2. beliefs

  "and there will be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain.

  for the old world and its evils are gone forever.

  " rev.

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  Reality is hard to cope with but crazy religious ideas of removing everything difficult and painful from our life experience is not the answer. Mental health is the answer, which is the ability to cope with human life and whatever it throws at you. Strengthen that and there is no need to wrap yourself in the cotton wool of religious ideas of perfect happiness.
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  You Are Unsuitable!

  by Divergent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today's text -.

  sunday, january 24. they collected the fine ones into containers, but the unsuitable they threw away.—matt.

  13:48.. understanding the lesson of this illustration helps us to avoid being overly distraught or disappointed if a bible student or one of our children does not make the truth his own.

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  Oh yeah I am definitely unsuitable for a crazy cult with uneducated idiots telling me how to live my life. If people are suited to that good luck to them but it ain't for me.

  Edit: nobody is suited to living like that. I wish they would all realise that they are suited to 21st century living and they are capable of living independent lives. Just stop being afraid people. There are good people out here who care.
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  My First CLAM Meeting

  by The Searcher in

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  i carried out my monthly "cover" visit to the k.h.

  tonight.

  as previously discussed on this forum, the clam meeting is just a rehashed, recycled, reshuffled, & rebranded ministry school and service meeting.

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  he was getting frustrated and he said " come on people there's tons of answers
  here". - Bigdummy

  What a weird thing to say! Normally in a presentation of any kind, a speaker asks for comments or questions. These guys ask for 'answers' meaning read something out of the Borg book or magazine you are holding. Not a cult then?!

  No wonder you thought do people in JW Ville do any thinking of their own. It is not allowed, just find your answers in the paragraph, brothers and parrot it back to me. Those that do think obviously keep it to themselves and quietly leave.
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  Would a loving creator give humans the gift of free will?

  by Heisenberg in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  they say ignorance is bliss... well, i wish that god did not give adam free will.

  i am ok to not have free will if it means i will live forever in perfect paradisiac conditions.it has been explained that free will is a gift from god.

  they say 'who would want to live life like a robot?

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  POI, I cannot bear even to think about such things -let alone watch a video! God will have to provide reasons one day

  fisherman, if you don't mind me saying you need to get your hands away from your eyes and take a long hard look at reality. There are millions of people who not only have to think about violence and evil, they have to live with it every day. Men women and children.

  There are thousands of people and many organisations trying to lessen suffering and get people out of terrible war zones, stinking prisons and torture chambers. It's no good hiding and waiting for God. Get up and help. Be part of the solution.
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  was Darwin an atheist?

  by Ruby456 in

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  asking this q because my own feeling about this is that he probably believed in god but his evolutionary thesis is used to support atheism.

  how come?

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  I own that I cannot see as plainly as others do, and as I should wish to do, evidence of design and beneficence on all sides of us. There seems to me too much misery in the world. I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created the Ichneumonidae with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of Caterpillars, or that a cat should play with mice. - Charles Darwin in a letter to Asa Gray (1860)

  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichneumonidae