it is not uncommon for theists to accuse rational people on this forum of "scientism".. in my opinion it is nothing but a cheap shot from those who know they lack evidence for their beliefs.
if something like "scientism" actually does exist then i have never encountered it.. here is part of an exchange from another thread - i have brought it here as it was off-topic.... scientism = claim of scientific method being universal and the only valid method of knowledge.
followers of scientism always demand scientific evidence to anything.
History only happens once. We cannot rerun history and change certain conditions to determine causes
Paleontology and archaeology are sciences.
In science for example a question such as "which substance conducts electricity better"'can be tested and solved.
Until a better conductor is discovered or invented. Super conductors for example.
it is not uncommon for theists to accuse rational people on this forum of "scientism".. in my opinion it is nothing but a cheap shot from those who know they lack evidence for their beliefs.
if something like "scientism" actually does exist then i have never encountered it.. here is part of an exchange from another thread - i have brought it here as it was off-topic.... scientism = claim of scientific method being universal and the only valid method of knowledge.
followers of scientism always demand scientific evidence to anything.
I explained that there was in the clearest terms possible with examples (such as history)
Actually SBF history is examined using primary sources. A primary source is anything that is extant from the period whether it be an official document, a personal letter, household accounts, a building or even a painting. These are examined and a theory of what happened in that period is developed which does follow the scientific method.
Of course experimentation cannot be carried out to confirm the theory but as new evidence come to light, as new primary sources are found the theory is adjusted. Secondary sources also add adjustments. These are historical accounts written about the period and may have been created not long after the events.
skimming though my iphone earlier today i came across a fb post - which i now can't find!.
basically it was a claim that a gb member had stated that associating with a disfellowshipped person was akin to sleeping next to a corpse.. so obviously i'm curious as to whether anyone else has come across this..
Good god I've not even heard of that horrible punishment let alone heard a 'true Christian' use it in a talk. Do they read books about medieval tortures to find allegories and metaphors for their talks. Revolting! What's wrong with these people!
after contemplating whether or not to attend the memorial this year i finally went.
this time last year i had been reinstated and within weeks the elders summoned me to the kh to interrogate me about my past and place of residence.
i was angry with them and lost my temper and stood up to them.
Sorry I don't remember your story or the background to this but you say you've been disfellowshipped twice by this cult? Why do you want to go back? Your dad's not there anymore.
i am dying of cancer.
yesterday i asked my full blown jw wife if she could snap her fingers and make me well would she do so?.
she replied, "yes.
Sour Grapes this is really shitty for you. Life isn't fair and there isn't a loving God. Wishing you strength and the love of friends and family.
I have said exactly the same thing thing as you posted here, every day their God waits there's more people to destroy and if he knows hearts then why wait.
mrs phizzy and myself will be eating out, sure in the knowledge we will not have jw's using the same restaurant.. i may have a cigar along with my brandy at the meal's end to celebrate my (our) freedom..
As is your right, an adult can and does choose whether or not they will accompany someone to a concert, a doctor's visit, to a school play, to a commencement exercise, to a basketball, hockey, baseball or football game, to a night club, to a political campaign event, to a movie or the Grammys. Clearly, not every adult is going to appreciate an invitation from someone to attend the Memorial of Christ's death either and would be content with reading a book.
You know as well as I do that no such right exists within the JW religion djeggnog. If a JW misses the memorial it would be flagged up immediately as a spiritual weakness and could lead to visits from elders. Especially if the person is an elder, MS or pioneer. They may lose their 'privileges' and there may even be the elders visiting asking the loyalty question about who do you recognise as the FDS.There is no such right or adhering to personal boundaries in your religion so stop pretending there is.
i went with my husband tonight for the first time.
it was pretty appalling how they lied about the 144k and everyone else.
then passing the wine and bread for nothing.
UBM101, that's the whole motivator in Christianity that I hate. How much are you going to work, give, suffer and bleed for this man who was tortured to death for you?
mrs phizzy and myself will be eating out, sure in the knowledge we will not have jw's using the same restaurant.. i may have a cigar along with my brandy at the meal's end to celebrate my (our) freedom..
it is the weirdest of JW meetings, and even when I was fully in, left me feeling somewhat depressed.
Yes I always thought so too Phizzy. Miserable and depressing, all that talk of torture and slow death. Horrible. The ritual of pasing the emblems, weird. I hate rituals and always have.
Mickey Mouse I'm looking forward to car share too, loved the last series.
wt has made a number of references to this alleged quote by j. paul getty:.
“money doesn’t necessarily have any connection with happiness.
nothing in my wt life brought more stress and anxiety than not having enough money.. this quote makes far more sense:.
As Homo sapiens we have been naturally selected as people who can cope with grinding hard work, lack of sleep, the ability to channel adrenaline into survival etc. If we then become rich and have lots of leisure time it can affect our happiness level because we are the survivors, the ones who struggled to be here, the ones who made it. As a species we're not biologically cut out for sitting around a pool all day.
I think this is what Getty and other rich people mean, but then there's plenty to be done if you are awash with cash. Plenty of need in this world if they get bored by that pool.
mrs phizzy and myself will be eating out, sure in the knowledge we will not have jw's using the same restaurant.. i may have a cigar along with my brandy at the meal's end to celebrate my (our) freedom..
What will I be doing tomorrow evening? Eating dinner with my daughter, especially the yummy chocolate cheesecake she's just made. Trying not to start on the chocolate eggs I bought her for Easter. Watching tv together, not thinking about Jesus being nailed to wood with six inch nails
