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  Tell you what to do - what to think and what to feel!

  by StephaneLaliberte in

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  i just watched the movie apostacy and thereby, visited an ancient feeling of mine.

  there were various moments where you could tell that the mother and even the “faithful” daughter were bottled up inside with many thoughts and feelings left unsaid.

  their basic, normal, human morality immediately tells them that the proper way to act is not that of the wt.

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  the misery of knowing something is wrong and you keep telling yourself it must be you. Convincing yourself that the better part of you is arrogant, evil and prideful, the only possible result is depression and constant sadness. - SL

  Yes for years I kept thinking it must be me, everyone else is happy with the stuff they say from the platform or write in the watchtower. Nobody thinks they are contradicting themselves or being harsh about people who have doubts.

  Depression is the only result if this goes on too long, I agree. I remember it well. Note to self, don't ever doubt yourself if your doubts are well founded, eight million people can be wrong.
  
  
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  Foreign holidays now expicitly forbidden too

  by George One Time in

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  https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/jw-celebrate-holidays/.

  mostly we read about the regular holidays in the western world.

  now the other ones are also named, because some witnesses could be in doubt .

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  Amelia I thought exactly the same thing!

  I read your link, they say if it's not a religious festival everyone must make up his mind according to their own conscience. Then they list a scripture that criticises every form of special day whether it celebrates a country, a person, a flag, the moon, whatever. Basically don't celebrate anything. Conscience! They're not allowed a conscience, just follow the GBs rules.
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  Explain Your Avatar

  by new boy in

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  i know this thread has been done before.

  however maybe some of the new comers might like to know.. my avatar is the cover of my first novel "your crazy life.

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  Lake Como, Italy, on the first holiday I took on my own because I needed to get out there and start living
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  Tag teams of Cart Sitters

  by days of future passed in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  one sunday, we took our dad out for lunch.

  since it didn't open till 12:00, we were going to have to kill time.

  this restaurant is situated with other businesses around a small park and when we parked, we noticed there was a cart to the right in the park.

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  I live in a very small town and we have two carts now on a Saturday. One in the town centre and the other about fifty metres away down a cut through between some shops. Last weekend when I cut through they were also slightly up a shop alleyway and I almost stopped and said you just look like you're hiding.
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  Equality of outcome ...

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
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  ... in pol pot's cambodia.. .

  the regime freed these people from inequality and an oppressive class system by changing them from being alive to being dead, and so they were all equally dead..

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  Yes to walk out on a lecture after merely being told most men are taller than women is ridiculous. There were some badly behaved students in those videos. I see it as the pendulum effect. Are you familiar with the pendulum effect? That when there has been a grossly unfair situation as there was with unequal pay, unequal opportunities and women not being believed or being blamed for rape it leaves a bad taste for decades.

  What I find weird is things have improved dramatically since the rise of modern feminism in the 1960's (I know feminist ideas have been around much longer) that it seems many haven't caught up. Sometimes I say to my daughter, you should have lived through the seventies when I grew up. Then you'd know about sexism, I say to her, watch some old films for god's sake. Watch some documentaries to see how women who took the first contraceptive pill were treated. As either whores or career women who hated children.

  So now the pendulum is swinging crazily back the other way and it seems out of control but eventually it settles and the pendulum will be in the middle. Hopefully this will happen with feminism. A lot of students were behaving well in the vids, the vast majority in fact.
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  Brexit Rollercoaster Grinding to a Halt

  by The Fall Guy in

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  uk prime minister could be out of her job within hours.

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  regardless, another referendum on stay/leave looks very likely - now that people can see what the real consequences of a divorce from the eu would be..

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  All will be well

  Ahh, so comforting. I feel fine now.
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  Equality of outcome ...

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  ... in pol pot's cambodia.. .

  the regime freed these people from inequality and an oppressive class system by changing them from being alive to being dead, and so they were all equally dead..

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  I agree with just about everything you said but what do you mean it's a free speech issue?
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  Equality of outcome ...

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  ... in pol pot's cambodia.. .

  the regime freed these people from inequality and an oppressive class system by changing them from being alive to being dead, and so they were all equally dead..

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  By this time, I was starting to raise my voice, not out of anger or because I'm some kind of bigot, but because I am passionate about certain issues and because I was starting to doubt my own sanity as I was sinking further down in this quagmire of a conversation. XD

  I read your whole conversation and thought it was interesting how immediately weird the guy became when you argued about gender issues with him. Just wondered why you yourself are passionate about discussing gender?

  With my daughter, she joined the feminist society at uni and sometimes she seems over the top with her views. That's even though I consider myself a dyed in the wool feminist, in other words the idea that men and women aren't equal never occured to me growing up and when I came across sexism in JWs I was shocked.

  I've read very little feminist literature, I find it depressing. I did try to read the Female Eunuch years ago but stopped when she talked about eating your baby's placenta.WTF? So just wondered why the passion about gender issues as someone who probably hasn't been treated as inferior due to gender, or perhaps you have?
  
  
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  Brexit Rollercoaster Grinding to a Halt

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. social
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  uk prime minister could be out of her job within hours.

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  regardless, another referendum on stay/leave looks very likely - now that people can see what the real consequences of a divorce from the eu would be..

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  All I could hear from older people during the run up to the referendum was foreigners are taking our jobs and sending British child benefit home to their kids, care of Nigel Farage's campaign. I don't think that all brexiters are xenophobic snugglebunny but there was a lot of it about. Now many of them are regretting their vote, saying we were deceived. Yeah that's democracy.
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  Conversation with my Dad today concerning the Leah Remini show

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
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  joe : i don’t quite know how to tell you this dad.

  dad : what daughter .

  joe : dont get mad or offensive, but there was a documentary that aired a few nights ago on prime time tv in the usa concerning the jws, and there was some very nasty stuff mentioned, and it certainly wasn’t positive toward the organisation.

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  Very frustrating for you, at least you tried. Some people just don't seem bright enough to see a cult even when it's right under their nose.