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  Can we ever get our loved ones out?

  by SnakesInTheTower in

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  a post on another thread got me to thinking and writing.. should we even be trying to get our loved ones out of jehovah's witnesses?.

  when a person truly believes in their belief system, or even if they don't but have held to that system for a long time, there is nothing we can say that will move them from that system.. why?

  perhaps pride.

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  Xanthippe

  Some on this forum have got their family out so it's possible but I suspect the longer we are shunned the harder it is. How can a person come back from shunning a close family member for twenty or thirty years?

  I think they will probably prefer to stay in than admit they were so vile to someone they gave birth to and raised. Or someone they grew up with, shared a bedroom with as children.

  This is the evil thing this cult does. By telling people they are being loving shunning family they set them up for so much guilt when they realise it's all bs, they trap them possibly until they die.
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  Did anyone put off having children because of wt bs?

  by I Faded Twice in

  1. social
  2. family

  just curious if anyone put off having kids because the end was so close.

  or because of you're "ministry" or lack of suitable mates..

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  Yes me. I pioneered for ten years with a two year illness break in between. When I finally stopped I was twenty-eight. Then we contemplated moving to Scotland because we knew something was terribly wrong in our congregation. Two years later having only moved about ten miles down the road we found out the problem with the religion wasn't a local thing after all!

  By this time I was thirty. Then we had to get out of the poverty the cult had left us in. Twenty-five years pioneering between my husband and myself. How stupid were we? That took time. Studying, a succession of horrible jobs, still living in a grotty rented apartment. Finally at thirty-six, still only half way through a distance learning degree I realised I was running out of time, biologically.

  So we had a baby girl a few weeks before I was 37. A most precious child. I love her to bits and she's all I have left of her dad now. Can't wait to see her at Christmas. So glad I didn't let that cult rob me of a child too.
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  New introduction

  by formerministerial in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello to all of you,.

  here goes an introduction of a new member.

  i'm 45 years old now and we wake up my wife and i from borg a few years ago.. i'm living between spain and france, due to my work.. it has been always refreshing to listen and read many of you here.. i hope it will continue the same..

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  Xanthippe

  Welcome fm to you and your wife, good to have you here. Looking forward to hearing your story but only when you're ready.
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  Long time no see

  by caballoSentado in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi friends,.

  checking the board after a long time... here is an update (my native language is spanish, so bear with me)... my daugter is now 18 and officially a commercial pilot!, she got her dreams fulfilled... my oldest son (an industrial engineer) in living and working for a big bank in canada (toronto) after studying a master in admnistration there, and my other son is doing very well and now owns two companies (he studied economics in one of the best universities in my country, perú)... i have just returned from a travel all over europe with my dear wife (30 days, 12 countries and 20+ cities)... so we left the jw in 2001 over the un scandal... and here we are.

  have a nice day all of you.

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  Xanthippe

  What a success story after leaving the cult, your children are doing great!

  Sounds like a fantastic European tour (30 days, 12 countries and 20+ cities) wow! I love travelling, it really does broaden the mind doesn't it?
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  Do you remember when you realised it was all bulls£&t

  by moley in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i remember when my faith left me.

  i used to enjoy meetings and used to participate but then all of a sudden i was finding myself bored shitless at meetings.

  i was taken off the theocratic ministry school for not attending when i was due to give a talk and not long after did something naughty and got disfellowshiped.

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  In 1989 when we found Crisis of Conscience in the public library, read it until 2am.

  Suddenly realised it wasn't a local problem!
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  Faders Needing a Great One Liner

  by Solzhenitsyn in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so our family fade is well under way.

  we changed congregations as regular attenders and left in good standing with those giving hugs and kisses simply knowing we "needed a change".

  we moved to a neighboring congregation that is out of our original region knowing we would see no one and the two boe's wouldn't really have immediate dealings.

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  You could say, 'the last time we went in field service I tried to explain overlapping generations to a university professor and he said come back when you understand it. Can you help me with that?'
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  If Angels in the Bible are of neuter gender ? Then why are they always depicted as males by description and name ? And never a female ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in all of the art i`ve seen in christendom, angels always have the form of a male, and in the bible those that are named always have a male name such as michael ,gabriel , etc, .

  nowhere in the art world that i have seen do angels have the female form, and in the bible they don`t have female names.. so if the angels are neither male or female why then are they depicted as males with male names ?and not female also ?.

  the watchtower illustrators also follow this line .when they illustrate an angel it is always in the form of a male and never a female form.. the anointed who make up the 144000 comprise of male and females right ?

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  I think you'll find the older statues and paintings of angels aren't actually meant to be female even though they have flowing gowns and long hair, they don't have breasts. If you look at the baby cherubs, known as putti, in renaissance art they have feminine faces and flowing curly hair but as they're naked you can see they're male.
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  The gullibility has no bounds with these people

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  talking to a couple old friends and like many are not too pleased with the k.h.

  selloffs and being squeezed into another hall.

  " oh well the organization needs the funds to build all the k.h's in africa where all the growth is".

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  Also they are mentally shying away from considering the thought it might be a cult because how does a person come back from shunning a sister, a child or a parent for decades and say, eh sorry I was wrong.
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  Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Bother You At All?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i faded from the religion and simply didn’t go back.

  once people understood that my family and i left, people in the congregation didn’t know what to do.

  should they call me, visit me, leave me alone?

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  Do JWs bother you at all?

  Maybe it's just me but it seems like an odd question. Isn't that why we're here, because they bother us?
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  How to be happier every day.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. social
  2. family

  the messages contained in these two books for children are quite profound and can be taken on board no matter what age you are.

  book reviews @tes.com.

  https://www.tes.com/news/two-tips-kids-books-being-happy.

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  I like the 'am I hoarding thoughts?' exercise. We need to decide which thoughts to keep and which to bin. Good point.