Posts by Satanus

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So after the blow out between my old JW buddy and I, it's back to "normal"

by wha happened? in

a friend of mine and i had a huge blow out about the jw religion.

he and i were friends before either one of us were jw's.

in fact, i took him to his first meeting.

Satanus

Wierd, huh? When i was in, sometimes w aukward discussions, where there were jws and nondubs involved, when we were working, i found myself saying things out of sink w wt programming. I think that inconsistent actions like that show that it is merely programming that runs a lot of jws, including me, when i was in. Doing construction work w some nondubs present allows the programming to slip, kind of like your jeans can slide down a bit, when your working. In other words, the guy isn't being himself, as a dub.

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If man evolved?

by tornapart in

i know anyone who believes in evolution is going to say that there is no 'if' about it.

however.... if man evolved over hundreds of thousands of years ago, why were there only about 200-300 million people alive 2,000 years ago?

surely there'd have been many billions by then?.

Satanus

I remember reading about this, yrs ago. Ice isn't actually a solid. Its a very viscous liquid, like glass is, although less solid. So, real solid objects could sink. The various science stations on antarctica have problems w their installations slowly sinking.

As well, dull metal objects absorb heat from the sun, so w the resultant melting of surrounding ice, sinking would be accelerated.

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Mormons getting hollowed out: The tipping point has occurred.

by Qcmbr in

ever since mitt romney turned the spotlight on the lds church a growing tsunami of disaffection has been accelerated and brought to a head.. the lds core faithful members are leaving in increasing numbers such that growth has not simply stagnated in the west but it has actively reversed.

to their credit the church is responding aggressively but not only is it too late, it is an impossible task.

you can only paint sh*t so many ways.

Satanus

My goddess. Thats quite a flowchart. I wonder, do souls fall through the cracks quite often?

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Why dont Jehovahs Witnesses target the Muslim religion as they do Catholics and the protestant religions

by smiddy in

jw
friends

o.k.

fair enough they do not have the same freedom to go from door to door in muslim lands , and of course their are so few of them their to make any impact with their incidental witnessing .. however with modern day technology ,the internet , blogs ,tweets ,social media , etc,etc.

they could saturate /flood these countrys with their brand of " truth" if they were serious about it .. the fact that they dont, : means they are not serious about spreading the good news of the kingdom in all the earth , making jehovahs name known in all the earth , or witnessing to everybody on earth so they can have opportunity to gain salvation .. or are they afraid of what the muslims will do to them in retalliation .. smiddy.

Satanus

Jay hoover is scared of getting kicked in the nuts by allah.

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Mormons getting hollowed out: The tipping point has occurred.

by Qcmbr in

ever since mitt romney turned the spotlight on the lds church a growing tsunami of disaffection has been accelerated and brought to a head.. the lds core faithful members are leaving in increasing numbers such that growth has not simply stagnated in the west but it has actively reversed.

to their credit the church is responding aggressively but not only is it too late, it is an impossible task.

you can only paint sh*t so many ways.

Satanus

Very interesting. Mormons have a nature quite different from jws, especially the leaders. Mormons tend to be outgoing, engaging and more open. Jw leadership is very passive aggressive. So, what is working to break the mormon monolith won't necesarily work against the wt corp.

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If man evolved?

by tornapart in

i know anyone who believes in evolution is going to say that there is no 'if' about it.

however.... if man evolved over hundreds of thousands of years ago, why were there only about 200-300 million people alive 2,000 years ago?

surely there'd have been many billions by then?.

Satanus

JB

Is this to what you are referring?

Claim CD013.1:
The conventional K-Ar dating method was applied to the 1986 dacite flow from the new lava dome at Mount St. Helens, Washington. The whole-rock age was 0.35 +/- 0.05 million years (Mya). Ages for component minerals varied from 0.34 +/- 0.06 Mya to 2.8 +/- 0.6 Mya. These ages show that the K-Ar method is invalid.
Source:
Austin, Steven A., 1996. Excess argon within mineral concentrates from the New Dacite Lava Dome at Mount St. Helens volcano. Creation Ex Nihilo Technical Journal 10(3): 335-343. http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=research&action=index&page=researchp_sa_r01
Response:

Austin sent his samples to a laboratory that clearly states that their equipment cannot accurately measure samples less than two million years old. All of the measured ages but one fall well under the stated limit of accuracy, so the method applied to them is obviously inapplicable. Since Austin misused the measurement technique, he should expect inaccurate results, but the fault is his, not the technique's. Experimental error is a possible explanation for the older date.

Austin's samples were not homogeneous, as he himself admitted. Any xenocrysts in the samples would make the samples appear older (because the xenocrysts themselves would be old). A K-Ar analysis of impure fractions of the sample, as Austin's were, is meaningless.

Links:
Henke, Kevin R. n.d. Young-earth creationist 'dating' of a Mt. St. Helens dacite: The failure of Austin and Swenson to recognize obviously ancient minerals. http://noanswersingenesis.org.au/mt_st_helens_dacite_kh.htm

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD013_1.html

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Breaking News - Morning Earthquake near Ottawa, Canada

by jgnat in

measured about 5.1 on the richter scale, it was enough to rattle residents.. .

Satanus

Oh no, spilled beer. Keep your beer safe, people. You never know whena quake could rattle your beer bottles.

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Science is Biased?

by enigma1863 in

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friends

i need some help fleshing out an illustration that explains how people can be biased but still reach honest conclusions.

i had jws claim that "evolutionists" are biased towards evolution.

if they were biased towards something else they'd reach different conclusions.

Satanus

Evolution theory and science, both came into existence in a heavily christian biased, politically correct, victorian society. That says a lot about the people who birthed these new sciences, and the sciences, themselves.

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The Advocates for Awareness of Watchtower Abuses (AAWA) [WARNING]

by Simon in

uncensored discussions and information for anyone interested in the advocates for awareness of watchtower abuses or 'aawa' http://aawa.co/ (previously known as "the association of anti-watchtower activists http://jwactivists.org/) and how it's handled and responded to privacy issues and put people at risk:.

aawa is here!!

(the association of anti-watchtower activists)an invitation to a new effort- aawawhy when i logged onto aawa did it go to facebook ?in regards to aawaaawa - every generation needs a new revolution - thomas jeffersonnotice how the introduction of the aawa has brought out the loonies lately?will aawa become another cult?

Satanus

venetian

If anything, simon was sympathetic to aawa. He bent over backwards.

I admit that we, a number of us on this board, do have a bit of a tendency to pile on, once the subject has been taken to the ground.

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John 3:16 - "EXERCISE faith"...??

by EdenOne in

the nwt often uses the expression "exercise", when it comes to the expression of faith.. "a notable use of that is in john 3:16 - for god loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.".

i started to be intrigued by the expression "exercise faith".

it is true that james wrote that "faith without works is dead", meaning that faith must be more than just an inner feeling or an oral statement; it must be evidenced by works.

Satanus

That is an important detail. Thanks for the research.

Balance it w the gospel of the nt, its core value. It is simply believing on (i think it says on, not in) jesus, that he is the son of god. That gospel was pushed within a different environment than pertains, today. Jesus the son of god was the new god on the block, amidst all the roman and greek ones, zerostrianism, and judaism. So, believing on jesus was quite declaration to make, somewhat rebellious and ultramodern, for the time.

Based on that, today, every christian, no matter what flavor, catholic, protestant or even some cults, all meet the nt gospel standard of believing on jesus. The 'true christian' 'false christian' concept is the brother of the 'exercised faith' idea. Baptism was the only additional act required.

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