i'm sure there are a lot of people who listened to that radio programme who felt as i did, that same deep sickening feeling in the pit of my stomach that makes me feel unwell because i know what that guy said to be true and then listening to the statement given out by the society., its always the same thing, everything denial, denial denial they have denied the most their past teachings,all the 'truth' that was 'spriitual food' that came from God and now 1914 and im sure they have thought out how to get round their teachings on 607bc . I just hope and pray that people will do their research about this cult before they are too far involved and indoctrinated.
vangogh
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EX Jehovah's Witness on BBC WM in the United Kingdom
by uk_ex_jw inworth a listen on the podcast.
talking on the issues of his life as a jehovah's witness and the child abuse issues.. plus a backlash afterwards by a few jw sympathisers.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01ffl21.
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WT Society holds EXTREME Responsibility for 1975 and False Expectations
by flipper inhowever- many jw's who have come into the jw organization from like 1985 forward virtually may have no knowledge of the wt society's 1975 debacle and false predictions of the end times or armageddon predictions.
just like in in the book 1984 by george orwell the wt society has a way of not only erasing it's history so no newer witnesses will be aware of their false predictions, but also they are re-writing their history as if those false predictions never happened.. so for those of you here who may have never read or heard of how whipped up into an emotional frenzy witnesses were in the years just before 1975 by the wt society claiming the end was any day now- this threads for you.
to see the pressure that was put on jw's by the wt society to get rid of everything before " armageddon " .
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vangogh
I am coming up to 60 now and even though all these years have passed since I was caught up in all that period and lost my college education; I was 'fortunate' that was all i lost and not my home etc, sorry, the folks who went through that all know what im talking about. Then for the Society and even a lot of dubs to turn it all round and just say 'oh well, it was really our own fault and that folk were expecting too much , again, you all will know what i am talking about. Although I get that sickening feeling in the pit of my stomach every time I think of back then and when I read of that time such as in here, I am so glad in a sickening kind of way because it proves to me personaly how wicked that f******* (sorry the thought of them makes me swear) organization really is. When I read through the New Testament and Jesus's words and then through the letters of Paul, what they say and the feeling I get from reading those passages is so diametrically opposed from all that crap the society powers out, it just proves to me personally that the words in deuteronomy where God warns of these false prophets is so true. Just look at the damage the Society has done to ordinary decent peoples lives and nothing but good Jesus's words did for people, doesnt that in itself speak the truth about 'The Truth'. Sorry going on and on but i know so many others must feel same way. They are just a publishing company where its its own preservation comes before anything or anyone else.
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Publications pdf request
by trackregister99 ini collecting many pdf of watchtower publications.
and i get some by archive.org, but i found that other missing are in this forum.
but i found that many of senspace links are dead.
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vangogh
Thanks very much for the links Caminante
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vangogh
and here in the northern hemishere , a lot of people were really feeling for those poor folks in australia who's calendar had ran out 12 hours earlier. glad it was realised by those people who had prophesied it that it was a new beginning and not the end.... i guess the light got bright for them.
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vangogh
Heard it being discussed on radio, the reason we are still all here is because 'really , it wasnt that it was wrong, it was just that the date was the start of a new beginning and not the end of everything'...
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Jehovah's Witnesses Governing Body for Peace Prize 2013!- "Over 100 years in the service of peace."
by Most Noble inthe current members of the governing body and their predecessors have for over one hundred years contributed to the advancement of peace and reconciliation, theodemocracy and human rights in more than 200 countries... on this account, the norwegian nobel committee has decided to nominate the governing body of jehovah's witnesses in 2013 for the nobel peace price.
read more here.
http://nobelpeaceprize.org/ .
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i take it that the nobel commitee obviously dont count all the people who have died, the broken families, the mental illness plus all the other things that the 'WBTS' have been responsible for, all that goes for nothing.
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The January 1st Watchtower Admits That JWs Have Been Wrong As To Their Expectations Of The End!...but
by minimus inthey excuse it by saying, it's ok since at least they were on the watch.. i believe they should think about god's view of watchmen who constantly gave false pronouncements.
they would be judged accordingly by god!.
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vangogh
what they also need to do is to admit to all the damage that they have been the cause of in peoples lives. broken marraiges, loss of a person's chance of further education and all the other crap that they have fed to people thats caused so much damage,yes and lost lives too.
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RIP Sir Patrick Moore
by Chariklo invery, very sad to learn of the death of sir patrick moore.
i've been following his programme the sky at night ever since the first one.
he started my lifelong interest in astronomy, and is partly responsible for my sons' careers.. wonderful enthusiasm!.
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when i was in my early teens I bought 'The Observers Book of Astronomy' written by Sir Patrick, I still cherish that book, was the start of a life long interest in astronomy. Thank You Sir Patrick! You have introduced so many to Astronomy and helped opened our minds to the universe. The universe is yours now .God Bless.
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1975 - A weak argument?
by Christ Alone ini posted this on an older thread, but i wanted to get an honest opinion about this from all of you.
i think taking the 1975 approach with a jw is...weak.
was it wrong (and false prophetic) of them?
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vangogh
Leavingwt, that is the very article in the 22nd/may/1969 that i would point anybody who doubted the society's 1975 prophecy. I gave up my further education along with many others on the basis of that article, how could I not believe it to be true?, It was spiritual food coming from God through his appointed channel on earth. We were continualy told from the platforms of kingdom halls and conventions that the society publications were spiritual food from god. Also when you read the article you will see that what the article says seams to be all backed up by scripture, how could anybody back then not believe. When 1975 came and went with nothing happening, we were then told that it was us who had all taken it the wrong way, that it was our faults. Please anybody and everybody read that article 'What Future for the Young' in May 22nd 1969 Awake. Dont try find it on the Watchtower web site though , oh no sir. that particular piece of 'God's spiritual food' has been deemed by mere men not fit for us to see. I truely wonder what Jesus will be thinking about these men who said such things and not just any men, men who said that Jesus chose them because they were the only true hearted men suitable to be Jesus's channel on earth. Would truely hearted men allow such misleading articles and the personal damage that was done to people and their lives because of them being published world wide? No!! These articles were published with the full knowledge of the governing body at the time, they knew exactly what they were doing. Anybody who has any doubts please read that awake article of may 22nd 1969!
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The Watchtower Penitentiary
by stuckinamovement inlearning the truth about the watchtower society can be very painful for a number of reasons.
first, it is so disconcerting to realize that the core of your existence and the foundations of your beliefs are false that it can throw you for a real loop.
as witnesses we are so confident in all of the answers we have been given, to questions that we never asked, that we mentally put ourselves up on a pedestal above the masses of poor, blind, wicked humanity.
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vangogh
What a marvelous post SIAM, thoughts are with you.