My goodness I've got so much catching up to do. Especially with Pink Floyd and Pearl Jam it seems, Great thread Zed
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What song would you dedicate to the borg?
by krejames inzed's thread on powerful albums got me listening to darren hayes after ages and i decided i would like to dedicate this song to the borg.
http://youtu.be/nwvtdt9mntw.
step into the light.
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krejames
@hoser but that's where the fun is ;)
good choice btw (I'm assuming you mean the manfred mann one or it'll be a red face for me)
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Dinosaurs Of Eden
by TD ini saw this at the visiting nurse book sale in february and it was too macabre to pass up.. .
the book is written by ken ham, an australian born, young earth creationist.
briefly, two children go back in time using the bible as their "time machine" and discover that dinosaurs of the entire mesozoic era coexisted with adam and eve:.
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krejames
I love this thread. just saying.
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What song would you dedicate to the borg?
by krejames inzed's thread on powerful albums got me listening to darren hayes after ages and i decided i would like to dedicate this song to the borg.
http://youtu.be/nwvtdt9mntw.
step into the light.
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krejames
Zed's thread on powerful albums got me listening to Darren Hayes after ages and I decided I would like to dedicate this song to the borg
What song would you dedicate the borg that sums up your feelings right now?
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krejames
Some great albums already mentioned on here - the Cure, Marvin Gaye...wow
The album that towers in my life - simply because it unexpectedly came at the right time and its lyrics set off a chain of thoughts that ended up with me eventually breaking free mentally from the chains of the JWs is Darren Hayes' very electronic 2004 album The Tension and the Spark. One of those albums I bought then never actually listened to until a couple of weeks later. Couldn't believe it from the opening lines of Darkness ("been spending so much time underground, I guess my eyes adjusted to the lack of light...I was covered in darkness") to the spiritual/fleshly war described in I Like the Way ("the decadence of giving in to desire creates such entropy within - looking for love in spiritual faces, blind to the art of fabrication..."). This was an album speaking to ME!
To this day I'm still not sure why I bought the album in the first place - I always found him and his group Savage Garden as saccharine and whiney. It's a shame he went back to the whining and the saccharine with subsequent albums but for a moment Darren Hayes had something genuine to say and he said it very well.
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I ran into an active JW...surprised
by nolongerconfused inso as you all know, i have fully faded...i'm completely out and have not told the elders or da myself...just faded 100%.... so i run into an active jw, different congregation, and as i walk past him i say, "hey so and so, how are you doing?
"....he looks down, doesnt dare look at me in the eyeball and keeps walking...then a split second later he turns around and says, hey man, aren't yuo disfellowshipped?....
i was like wtf?...lol, i said "not that i know of"...i asked him who told him such thing?...he wouldnt tell me who, but he had "heard"...so i just left it at that and told him if he wants to know then to contact my ex-elders.... my thing is, could the elders have df'ed me without me knowing it?...i have not been accused of their so called "apostasy", nor have i received a letter requesting info or to set up a meeting, nor a call...the coordinating elder (formally president/presiding overseer) still texts me all the time saying hi etc...no religious texts or anything like that).
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krejames
Hey Parakeet - if your Mum didn't hear it yet then she probably won't- it was probably about a year ago. I got the impression it was an aside rather than being in the outline - you know how some of these COs like to sprinkle their talks with lots of personal opinion...but wouldn't surprise me if this is the way things go in future.
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Are homosexuals born that way? The March 15 Watchtower seems to say so.
by matt2414 in15 one brother who was raised in a christian household wrote that for as long as he could remember, he struggled with homosexual tendencies.
he said: i always felt awkward.
it seemed that i didnt fit in anywhere.
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krejames
Don't get me started on that Your Youth book chapter. If there's one thing I don't think I could ever forgive the WTS for it's that book. I think I was about 8 when I went through that chapter with my Mum. that chapter explicitly stated that homosexuals aren't born that way (consider that a WT two-fingered salute, Gaga) but that they learn the behaviour. I spent the next 20 years feeling nothing but guilt and shame over how evil I was and waiting to grow out what must surely be a phase...
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I ran into an active JW...surprised
by nolongerconfused inso as you all know, i have fully faded...i'm completely out and have not told the elders or da myself...just faded 100%.... so i run into an active jw, different congregation, and as i walk past him i say, "hey so and so, how are you doing?
"....he looks down, doesnt dare look at me in the eyeball and keeps walking...then a split second later he turns around and says, hey man, aren't yuo disfellowshipped?....
i was like wtf?...lol, i said "not that i know of"...i asked him who told him such thing?...he wouldnt tell me who, but he had "heard"...so i just left it at that and told him if he wants to know then to contact my ex-elders.... my thing is, could the elders have df'ed me without me knowing it?...i have not been accused of their so called "apostasy", nor have i received a letter requesting info or to set up a meeting, nor a call...the coordinating elder (formally president/presiding overseer) still texts me all the time saying hi etc...no religious texts or anything like that).
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krejames
In one of the talks our last CO gave, he commented that we shouldn't have any contact with people who managed to "get around the system" without getting disfellowshipped, but are doing things that would be considered gross sins (EDIT i.e. faders leading "immoral" lives).
Also I couldn't agree more on the rumour mill...One of my closest friends is a "faded" JW who moved here from another area. It amazes me how the majority of his former JW friends never keep in touch with him (we're talking about years) except when a rumour started going around that he was disfellowshipped - suddenly his phone was ringing off the hook with so called friends trying to find out if it was true (but wanting the juicy goss).
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Reaching Loved Ones Stuck in a Cult: Reciprocal Letter Writing
by 00DAD ini've been toying with an idea that i think just might have some legs.
so here i am trotting it out for all of you to consider and comment upon.
for many of us, we are extremely frustrated by the fact that we have no way to communicate with our loved ones still stuck in the organization.
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krejames
I would be happy to send a letter on behalf of someone (I'm in the UK). I agree with Phizzy that it's best not to add anything about religious stuff - I do think it would work best if it was just to reconnect and confirm love. as already stated anything that could be interpreted as apostate talk would just play into the WT hands as they would see it as evidence of how cunning these evil "apostates" are.
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my worst fears were realized
by magotan inim on my phone, so im really limited.
i came out to my family about my doubts and my sexuality.
shit hit the fan.
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krejames
Magotan i'm so sorry to read what you're going through. You'll get through this.
Your family must be very confused right now too. They have shot themselves in the foot. They have probably realised by making you move out they will be expected to shun you if you are DF'd. Whereas if you had stayed under their roof they would have an excuse to continue contact. I feel sorry for your mum (my mum also feels I have shut her out). It will be hard for you and your family but it sounds like your mum really wants to keep in touch with you. I hope she does.