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  How Many Here Have Been Shunned?

  by Reborn2002 in

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  as most of you already know, the jehovah's witnesses are covering an article in their august kingdom ministry to be discussed the weeks of 8/19 and 8/26 which details how they are to shun and avoid those who are no longer members of their organization, even immediate family members.. .

  undoubtedly this article has been written to reinforce to the rank&file jehovah's witnesses the shunning policy, so as to tighten the ranks and prevent members from having the opportunity to learn the abundant contradictions and hypocrisies found within watchtower doctrine and practice from any who may have left.. this policy also serves to divide families and attempt to shame or abuse those whom have chosen to no longer be jehovah's witnesses, for whatever reason.. that much is obvious.

  in recent days this topic has been discussed in detail in various threads.

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  At the moment my two brothers shun me. It was very hard to take since we grew up very close to each other. Also some very close friends of mine have shunned me even to the point of walking several feet in front of me and pretending not to even see me. So sad what is done in the name of God. Reminds me of the terrorist and the mentality they possess

  On the bright side I do have other close family members and Witness friends who still talk to me and have been an encouragement to my wife and myself.

  But I can say that I am replacing those who shun me with others who, like myself, have been shunned and betrayed. It is a priviledge to get to know these new friends, many here on this board, who share the same mistreatment and abuse but who have proven to be a fountain of water in a dry scorching desert. To those I say it has been my priviledge and honor to meet your acquaintance.

  Salud.

  Edited by - salud on 10 August 2002 19:32:1
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  NEW YORK TIMES SUNDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  by silentlambs in

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  we are going to have an extensive article in the new york times this sunday.

  there is an early addition that comes out in most cities around on saturday.

  i encourage one and all to get your copy and do not miss the important piece of history.

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  The New York Times can be purchased at any book store, most major grocery stores, most airport newspaper stands, every major city carry's it and some not so major ones.

  I suggest getting extra copies for those ones that might have missed out. Just FYI the Sunday national edition runs around 4.75 but it is well worth it.

  Also get your copy early in the AM because it has been my experience that by noon/mid-afternoon they are all gone.
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  Is the Bible Really the Word of God?

  by gumby in

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  is the bible really the word of god?

  while sitting in my garage having a smoke, i reached up to an old publication (which i keep handy on my shelves).

  it was the book stated above.

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  Francois,

  I agree with you totally on the words of Jesus. I think Just2laws would also agree.

  Over the last few months I also have been studying not only the Bible but other sources regarding the Bible and it has ressurrected many of my suspicions and doubts I used to have even as a JW. For example, why is it that the God of the Hebrew scriptures is so horrible to deal with and the God of the Greek scriptures is so different that they don't even relate whatsoever? It is almost like there was a God for the Jews and a seperate one for the Christians. The loving God that Jesus prayed to is so different than the hateful one of the Jews.

  After being lied to and decieved and basing my entire life on teachings of an organization I am more skeptical as to what I believe. I feel more free to explore other ideas and beleifs and a need to prove to myself what the truth is, including the truth about christianity. I feel more people should also when they are ready.

  I don't condemn anybody for believing in the Bible or any other belief system as long as it does not harm people. It is a personal decision that one has to make and bare responsiblity for.
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  Dallas Apostapics..Even More!

  by Valis in

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  i thought perhaps instead of having 20,000 dallas threads we could put our pics all in one like a big gallery...well...here are my contributions...and there will be more...soon...very soon.

  sincerely, .

  district overbeer .

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  Dear Valis

  Thanks for putting those pics up. They really turned out great!! Anyway we made it to Tampa and Karen wants me to tell you that the Smurf loves the hot weather and is going swimming tommorrow. I think he wants to stay. We will let you know.

  Enjoyed meeting all of you and hope to do it again in the future. Have fun Saturday and take care of Venice for us. Tell her to take care of my book .
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  THANKS to Steve and Rachael

  by Carmel in

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  i just want to take the opportunity to thank steve and rachael (princess) for hosting an excellent party.

  contrary to what may have been a false impression, though there was beer and wine for those who wanted, the gathering was not a "kegger" and teetotalers and children were both safe!.

  my personal thanks and warmest regards to our wonderful hostess and host.

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  Dear Steve & Rachel,

  We just returned home today from two wonderful weeks of vacation.

  One of the highlights was the wonderful time we spent at your party, in your beautiful home in the great Pacific Northwest. We met so many nice people, and made many new friends. Wow, we all had so much to talk about, and left with so many special memories. Thank you everyone!!

  Thanks Steve and Rachel, for making this possible, and for all your hard work.

  Frank and Karen
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  Sorry Englishman, Mulan said we beat you!

  by Joyzabel in

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  yep, there are 19 of us here at princess' apostafest!

  whooooohoooooo are we ever having fun.. sorry i'm so computer illiterate i would show you pics (we just took a group picture)!!.

  let me clarify, there are 19 posters here with their parteners and kids.

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  Just want to add that my wife had a blast and enjoyed meeting all of you. It is nice to finally put some names to faces.

  Especially want to thank Rachel and her husband for the FANTASTIC job they did. Her husband got up at 3 AM to get the meat going in the smoker, what a trooper!! My hat goes off to both of you.

  An annual event? Well Rachel and family will have to decide on that one...

  I loved the Shulamite song, we were rolling on the floor... well maybe Venice was.

  And the sun finally did come out to cap off a wonderful day and evening.

  Glad to have met all of you and hope to see you all again sometime...
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  Don't buy into Ray Franz's stumbling block.

  by Bleep in

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  ray franz wrote, "i was baptized a jehovah's witness in 1972 (three years before armageddon came) and served as an elder for a good number of years.

  all i can say is put franz book to the test for yourself.

  1)he is making money off a dumb idea.. 2)he was expecting 1975 to be armageddon.

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  I miss You Know....

  Edited by - salud on 26 July 2002 21:17:7
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  Goodbye....

  by VeniceIT in

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  ta-ta, well i will be leaving on friday to head up to the great nw, and will not be bringing my computer.

  i'll be taking over mulans computer for a few days .

  i also wanted to remind you all that you must come to the apostafest aug 3rd, just n. of seattle courtesy of princess.

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  Ven,

  Glad you made it there safely. What happened on your trip??? You will have to tell me about it. Hopefully it was your fault and not the airline's.

  Have a great time and also let me know when the last ferry to Orcas is from Anacortes, we don't want to miss it.

  Tell Dave and Mulan to save some beer for me!!! See you on the 29th.
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  Joe Anderson's Letter

  by silentlambs in

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  j. anderson

  june 5, 2002

  service department.

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  We applaude Joe for his courage!!! It is a shame that elders of his calliber have had to resort to this. This is a trend that will not stop. As qualified men continue to leave it will only deteriorate the quality of the leadership that the WT has to offer, but the WT refuses to do anything about it.

  You Know... enjoyed your insightful comments.

  Fred Hall... your right, one less good elder.
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  Why am I here?

  by larc in

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  sometimes i asked myself that question, and sometimes i really don't have an answer to my own question.

  i faded from the religion back in 1962 with my dear wife.

  there were few books and no internet.

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  Larc,

  Pardon me but, AMEN!! I've asked myself the same question from time to time and I very much have arrived to the same conclusion. Always enjoy reading your post's and glad you are here.