what could you say to prove to a witness that they simply do not have the truth?.
One can plant seeds of doubt but that can go in one ear and out the other. Ironically using their same words when a person is ready to accept and learn the truth then they can open their eyes to reality.
To this day i still remember two conversations where reality did not matter to a person i care about deeply. Facts and reality wont help when the other person yells i believe in the bible.
so i wont get into why i asked my jw wife to leave... theres another thread for that lol... but more out of pure curiosity i asked her just now... "in order to save this marriage would you leave the jws?
", it was a snap call no, like not even a second to pause and think about it, which kinda took me back a bit, followed by a angry "why would you ask me that now?
" (shes going out witnessing with my kids and her friends).
Its amazing how much the JW can change a person and not toward the better. They have not all but most like a fake smile and an actual disdain for ones actual well being. Like from my limited time and interaction i dont see wifes with love affection towards their husbands, more like a side kick or friend view if that makes any sense. Again im so sorry you are dealing with this
i'm interested in seeing what jw trinket on etsy is the most appalling to the exjw community.
go to www.etsy.com and just search jw.
just when i thought that i found the most disturbing item, another comes along to top it.
I love the armageddon coffee mug lol
in this summer's convention theres a video showing the tale of a rather geeky plain looking brother whose relating the tale of how the prettiest girl in the whole school fancied him (!
) and sent him a love letter, the letter is read and it says .
"i think we would get along,i'm attracted to you, i like your personality, and that's not all, i think we could have fun together.
its screwed up but isnt that deep down what they the watch tower believes about women?
so i wont get into why i asked my jw wife to leave... theres another thread for that lol... but more out of pure curiosity i asked her just now... "in order to save this marriage would you leave the jws?
", it was a snap call no, like not even a second to pause and think about it, which kinda took me back a bit, followed by a angry "why would you ask me that now?
" (shes going out witnessing with my kids and her friends).
Wow im so sorry man and good luck. Either you bite the bullet or start looking at a good divorce lawyer.
i was having a conversation with a relative who has been inactive for several decades (part of the ‘75 generation) and he argued that a person that is a born in is better off staying in the organization rather than someone like him who lived as a “worldly” person but then became a witness later in life.
he argues that when you’re born in, all you know nothing outside of the organization, so you’re better off in than out, that’s why when born ins leave the org, they always come back.
i agree that as a born in, your social circle is composed of witnesses but i do feel that even born ins would be happier outside of the org than being in.
People who are born in have this illusion almost an ignorance of the world. Just do what the WT says and everything will be ok. The world does not work that way. Life has a way of throwing curve balls at you. A born in person is conditioned not to care about this life, screw studying ( do home schooling when you can), forget about college, don't aspire to grow in your job, forget about wanting leadership positions because they will all take away time from the WT. Everything revolves around the WT and their interpretations of what reality is. You are made to actually believe we are in the end of times, something that is so ridiculous to a non JW that one struggles keeping a straight face when they mention that. The best analogy might be the man behind the curtain in the wizard of oz but more malicious, thats the WT JW org.
Yes a person born in lacks social skills which becomes apparent when interacting with them. They are not bad people just misguided sheep lead astray by a false shepherd. One conversation i found interesting was a brother was recalling how he wanted to follow his dream in direction X but knowing it would need college and all of his time felt guilty that it would drive him away from Jehovah and at the end choose not to follow his dream. I remember staying quiet, thats when one sees the control this organization cult has. How a person would give up his dream because it would take away time from going door to door. Something i found so crazy but they where conditioned to think this way and this was a more progressive person, not a fanatical follower which i have dealt with.
I think one is always better off as a worldly person. The caveat is that as a worldly person we are in charge of our life our destiny. To many that is seen as something impossible and that fear leads them to the WT JW org. If we do bad in school, thats on us, if we fail to advance on work, thats on us. For those who dont want to fight, for those that have given up on life, the option of WT JW org etc becomes an alluring option, all responsibility is take away from ones hands and placed on this org. If something goes wrong its because god is teaching you a lesson etc.
i remember an elder questioning a woman who had admitted to giving and receiving oral sex from her unbelieving mate.
he asked her the most intimate questions which clearly flustered her.
interestingly, she “confessed “ to the elders because her conscience bothered her.
“Jehovah’s people are the thinkingest people on the planet!” - Anthony Morris III"
Trump would be proud of them
in spain (and the rest of europe), the "improved" data protection laws come into force on 25th may 2018. this is a good thing and sadly america is still lagging behind; not surprising with their current president!.
watchtower legal department are hot on the case and have instructed elders to hand out the new "release" forms out to all the publishers in their groups, whilst making it clear to them that they won't have any privileges if they refuse to do so!.
note these points in the instructions:.
What are in these s-21 cards? Im guessing just name address and phone number?
in revelation 17:18 we read: "and the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.”.
the watchtower's official position is that babylon the great is the worldwide false religion and nothing else but we never really think of babylon the great as a real country with physical borders and citizens?
i just finished writing an article on that, let me know what you think.how can babylon be a kingdom over other kingdoms in the last days?.
Its interesting with good background historical information but just my opinion a little hard to connect the dots with today world since most of what was written about took place over 300+ years ago. The Church had great power then, today not so much. Time makes all things change. Nokia once rules the world of cell phones, today they are our of business basically.
Right now the Pope is a likeable figure to some, charismatic to some, and someone with moral authority to some, compared to certain current leaders in office.
I would say the Pope is more like a Gandhi, Dalai Lama type who is typically seen a good person. Someone you want imput from but at the end of the day have already made up your mind and will do whatever you wanted to do. Just my opinion.
my marriage is ending.
its been over for a long time to tell the truth.. im not completely out of the borg and dont want to be dfed.. i want to keep contact with fam and friends, but im very lonely now.. which are the best jw dating sites which have free options?.
im not going to pay a lot, just want to meet some single sisters or ex sisters.. any help would be much appreciated..
I cant tell if you are trolling or not. This makes no sense. Honestly if you are serious take a year off and like LostGeneration said make time for yourself. Rediscover yourself.
