Posts by Phoebe

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Give Love to Receive Love ???

by IMHO in

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please help me understand this.

over the years i have seen and have heard of many who have changed congregation due to the 'lack of love' shown in their own.

you then hear many condemning such ones as 'having a problem' and 'taking their problems with them'.

Phoebe

IMHO

Please do not feel bad, it is not you.

I also suffer from anxiety and I have had depression in the past.

I had been going to the meetings alone (i finally stopped last May) My husband stopped about 20 years ago. Hardly anyone would talk to me and I would sit alone. I mean really alone, no one would even sit on my row! I was told I needed to 'widen out' and I tried. I'd see a group of women talking and I'd walk up and say hi but it was so awkward and very obvious no one wanted to talk to me. I can only assume that it was because my husband had left and my children went to university that maybe I was considered 'bad association'

I can't tell you how many times I walked home from meetings in tears.

To be truthful it was the lack of love and compassion that finally finished me off. I found people would care about those in their 'clique' but anyone outside they would ignore.

If you suffer from anxiety please go and get some help. I saw a psychologist for a year and it really helped me.

And one last thing, I've been shown more love from this forum than I have from JWs. People here genuinely care. So don't suffer alone.

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They still manage to find me.

by blisterfeet in

i grew up a jw, left at about 17 years old..(i'm 33 now) a little over a year ago i moved 1000 miles away from where i grew up.

today i "ran" into someone in the same congregation as my dad... like how is that even possible?!?!?

he was very kind, mentioned the borg but only in ways that related to his life.. his daughter is a pioneer, my dad gives "the best" comments at the meetings, my sister is awesome.. blah blah blah... .

Phoebe

It's a small world in JW land. I moved to the other side of the world and there was a brother in the congregation that actually used to be in my old congregation which was in a remote and very rural part of the U.K and he knew all the people I knew. I couldn't believe it.

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How Many People Here Still Believe In “God”?

by minimus in

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because of this site i realized that there were many people who were active jehovah’s witnesses really didn’t believe in god at all.

i’m curious how many people believe in god?

i’m not interested in debating why you shouldn’t have a belief in a god or should.

Phoebe

I believe in God :)

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Pillowgate - John Cedars

by CitizenofEarth in

is this true?

is this really true?!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.

Phoebe

All I'm saying is...my parents would be turning over in their graves if they saw this.

I am beyond shocked. These talks are totally unnecessary and to be honest, those guys appears to be a pair of perverts. If I had a son in bethel and knew about these talks, he'd be out of there. They have no right to interfere in people's personal lives anyway but to go this far is outrageous.

But, haven't the WT always been obsesses with sex?? I remember in the 60s an Awake coming out about sex and how it's done (in great detail) and as a teenager I was absolutely horrified that I was expected to take that magazine out in the ministry.

What else is next, one wonders?

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I've Disassociated. It's getting announced tomorrow.

by Heathen Dan in

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this is my first post to this site, im pale.emperor's brother:).

first of all, i've left being a jw in june.

since then my family have tried to convince me it's "the truth" and force me to go back even though it's my own decision.

Phoebe

Hello Dan,

Welcome! There are some wonderful people on here who will help and support you and I know your brother cares for you very, very much. I'm not that far from you (N.Wales)

I can't believe they've talked of suing you, imagine that in court?? The courts wouldn't take too kindly to them, would they?

You've done a very brave thing and I know you are going to be just fine and remember, you are never alone. You have your brother and all of us on here.

Take care of yourself.

xx

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Captives of a Concept Anatomy of an Illusion'

by Charles Gillette in

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understanding the illusionary concept that holds jehovah's witnesses captive.

"there is only one thing that needs to be known about the watchtower society and there is only one way to know it.

" don camerson.

Phoebe

We've read it, I think it's a brilliant book.

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After 10 years do they give up on you (hoping so)

by Spiral in

i think i read somewhere that if you have been inactive for ten years plus, the elders will not try to meet with you and corner you to get you back "in".

is that true?.

i just realized that mr. spiral and i haven't gone to meetings or reported time for over ten years.

Phoebe

It depends on your local elders. For example, in my town we have a young ex brother - faded - lives with his girlfriend, has a baby, smokes, celebrates Xmas etc. They don't bother him or pursue him because he also happens to be the son of one of the most prominent families in my congregation.

Apparently, he is not now 'seen as a JW' so they leave him alone.

The WT say often enough they 'don't hunt people down to DF them'

However, there is also a sister in my congregation who has been DF for smoking. She hasn't attended meetings in years and years no one locally would view her as a JW. Yet, they saw her smoking and DF her.

As Fall Guys says elders will decide if/when to 'attack' you. Always be prepared.

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UK congregations transferred more than £4 million during 2015-17 to Watchtower HQ

by truthseeker in

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*** due to formatting issues when posting, i will be posting stats as a separate replies to this thread ***.

stats as of january 13, 2018. .

england and wales: 1,325 congregations.

Phoebe

This makes for interesting reading...thank you.

By the way, I just checked the link to my brother's congregation, I see he's still alive.

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Cart Witnesses vs Faith Healing Church

by pale.emperor in

today in liverpool the cart witnesses were in their usual speck in bold street holding out their wafer thin rags and books that they literally can't even give away.

but today the city centre was flooded with some sort of black church handing out their leaflets and little invitations to a "special event" this sunday.

i took a leaflet off them as they handed it to me and they were very smiley and cheerful.

Phoebe

Absolutely true eyeuse2badub

I was guilty of the same but I thought I knew what I was talking about and loved it when people wanted to talk. Now I realize I was just spouting what WT wanted me to say. I now have to reexamine everything as I only left last May so my brain is still in WT mode somewhat.

Now I keep having flashbacks of conversations of people saying things like: WT cherry picked scriptures to suit them or you can get the bible to say anything. There was me staunchly defending WT! Now those old conversations are starting to make sense.

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Cart Witnesses vs Faith Healing Church

by pale.emperor in

today in liverpool the cart witnesses were in their usual speck in bold street holding out their wafer thin rags and books that they literally can't even give away.

but today the city centre was flooded with some sort of black church handing out their leaflets and little invitations to a "special event" this sunday.

i took a leaflet off them as they handed it to me and they were very smiley and cheerful.

Phoebe

I don't think JWs today know much about the bible at all, so they can't debate. It's just refer everyone to JW.org.

I also used to love it when someone wanted to actually discuss the scriptures.

Great video on YouTube by the way.