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  "Even if this wasn't the truth, I would still stay. This is the best life to live..."

  by HereIgo in

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  i was recently told this by a jw family member when trying to get through to them.

  does this quote indicate that maybe such ones have considered that the jw's may not have the truth after all?

  or is that just my wishful thinking?

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  Phoebe

  My dad said it all the time. He'd even say it to people in the ministry.

  It's had a bit if a revival now with the JW.Org strapline #bestlifeever Which I see on social media all the time.
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  Post Convention Euphoria

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there is a plethora of convention photos on my instagram this morning.

  (a lot of my jw friends have forgotten i'm on their followers list) .

  smiling faces standing next to convention posters with comments like 'nope, i'm not giving up.

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  Phoebe

  There is a plethora of convention photos on my Instagram this morning. (A lot of my JW friends have forgotten I'm on their followers list)

  Smiling faces standing next to convention posters with comments like 'Nope, I'm not giving up. I'll never give up' all hashtagged to death with #nevergiveup #bestlifeever etc

  They are all fairly young people, 40ish and under. They weren't around for 1975 and most of them have not had one obstacle in their lives to overcome. I'm wondering what they'll feel like in 20/30 years when the end hasn't come and they are scraping by. I was them once...I thought the end was imminent. I didn't worry about tomorrow. You give up everything and then they tell you it was your fault you did that and NOW the end is imminent and so the cycle goes on, wasting the lives of generation after generation. This religion is cruel.

  What post convention reactions have you had among family and friends?
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  The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

  but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

  i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

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  Phoebe

  @slimboyfat I do...I have some very solid reasons for leaving...but it's taken a year with a psychologist for me to have the courage to do it.

  I don't talk to anyone...I know how dangerous that is.

  JWs may not go to fight and for that have 'love among them themselves' but from what I've seen, they have no compassion and their love is conditional.

  @Vanderhoven - thank you.
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  The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

  but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

  i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

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  Phoebe

  @ LV101 - thank you :) I know I'll balance out - hope so, anyway!
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  The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

  but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

  i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

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  @slimboyfat

  Thank you for your reassuring words. I'm only 4 months out and I'm still not sure I've done the right thing. I'm not very good at decisions because I've had decisions made for me for the last 60 odd years. So deciding to leave, at this point in time, I still can't help but think I'm choosing death over life. Early days, I'm sure I'll get better at it.

  @jwfacts @cofty thank you for your kind words.
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  The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

  but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

  i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

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  Phoebe

  @wizzstick

  thank you for putting it in a way I can understand. I appreciate it.

  @Ruby456

  Thank you!
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  The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

  but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

  i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

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  Phoebe

  When I read this:

  Would almighty God have allowed this group of Christians to champion his name at this crucial time if they did not enjoy his blessing and support?

  I started having doubts about my doubts. This thread is long, complicated and you are all so clever but no one else spread's God's name like the witnesses, do they?

  If I wasn't confused enough as it is. Have I made a mistake leaving?

  I want to do the right thing and everything points to the JWs as not being God's people except the above. But when one of you said God has always put up with people doing things he disproves of...I started to worry.

  To be truthful I didn't sleep last night for worrying about it. I got up at 3.a.m to look for a YouTube video by Spike R to give me some clarity, because he always makes sense to me ad I find his voice very calming.

  Pheebs is much confused today :(

  
  
  
  
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  opportunity for fornication

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ever see brother ugly who is 86 being taken to the doctor by sister frigid who is 65 and also not good looking?

  they have to have a chaperone or at least sit in back and front seats.

  or a man who can't bring the freezing daughter in the house when he stopped briefly by because hubby is not home.

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  Phoebe

  When my husband and I were dating we were not even allowed in the front room of his mother's house even though she was in the next room watching television and the door was open. I felt insulted that they thought so little of us.

  We had an old brother in our congregation that looked like Dumbledore from Harry Potter and he said if he saw a sister walking to the meeting in the pouring rain and she was soaked to the skin he would not give her a lift as he didn't want anyone thinking there was something going on. Fat chance!
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  Episode 8 - Get Out Of Her, My People - It All Came Tumbling Down - Is Now Out

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  episode 8 - get out of her, my people - it all came tumbling down, is now out.

  this is a long one and the next to last in my story.

  there comes a point in life when you know too much to ever go back to the person you once were, or to the cult that you once called home.

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  @dubstepped

  Loved it! I especially felt your relief at leaving the convention. We did that, too. My super theocratic sister and her elder husband don't talk to us because we are not good enough. We saw them at the circuit assembly and I'd just had a baby, I thought she might want to see him. They were so horrible to me, refused to speak and didn't want to see the baby, that my husband scooped up our kids and said we're leaving. Walking out of the assembly hall and driving home was the best feeling...so I felt you and your wife's relief.

  BTW. Having listened to you for hours now, I was compelled to see a proper photo of you and you wife, so I found you on Facebook :)
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  JWs shunning other active JWs

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how many others have noticed how common it is for active jws to ostracize and shun other active jws?

  as far back as i can recall, jws have had an ongoing problem with cliques within congregations, and special needs talks would be given from time to time to address that trend.

  but, it seems to me that the practice has become even more pronounced with entire congregations actively shunning other congregations.

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  Phoebe

  For years my husband could never understand why brothers and sisters he bumped into ignored him. He left the truth because he was a burnt out MS/Pioneer. He hadn't done anything wrong, he was just plain exhausted mentally and physically and couldn't do it anymore. He was never DF and he never DA.

  It's only just now the penny has dropped that they were deliberately shunning him and still do.

  He's had brothers look at him and turn their backs. It really used to upset him.