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  First posting on here..Hello all

  by London Underground in

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  2. friends

  just wanted to say a big hello to everyone, my first post on here was actually yesterday but it was deleted.. so will keep this one short to save my precious time just in case its also deleted or lost.. got fed up with years of persecution from within the congregations.

  the lack of genuine friendship & lack of 'christian love'.

  having personally seen many a scandalous behaviour i began doing some research online some years ago.

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  Phoebe

  Hi London Underground

  Welcome!

  Looking forward to hearing your story. This forum is a life saver for many of us.
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  JW Rumor: End of the Traveling Overseer

  by Edison Trent in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a friend of mine has contacts to a family with several circuit overseers and special pioneers.

  they have good connections to bethel.. he told me that the latest rumor from bethel states that the cos should be abolished in their present form.

  they have also recently begun to take cos back to bethel.. over the same channel i have already heard of the car fleet program and that the dos should be abolished.. has anyone else already heard of it?

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  Phoebe

  On our last C.O. visit he brought a 'trainee C.O.' with him, so it would appear in the U.K at least, they are still training them.

  However, in the past we have had C.Os not being able to come due to health/family issues and a local super-elder has just done the job for him. My evil brother did temp C.O. work many years ago.
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  "The shootings in Las Vegas show how much we need God's Kingdom"

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my jw wife, like all of us, was saddened by the senseless killings in nevada.

  she said, "the shootings just shows how much we need god's kingdom.

  " i replied, "yes if it was armageddon, jehovah wouldn't have left any survivors.

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  Phoebe

  Just read on the CNN news a JW was killed during the attack. A young woman. So sad.
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  Waking up to TTATT: Blessing or Curse?

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  if you take the red pill, you'll have knowledge, you'll be awakened, aware of reality, you'll have freedom.. if you take the blue pill, you stay in your bubble, wearing rose colored glasses, and feel security in an illusion.. taking the red pill isn't something that's easy to do.

  to accept that everything around you is an illusion built up on lies or half truths.

  but hey, it might feel good to be aware and break free from this illusion.

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  Phoebe

  I'm 64 and recently awake. Would I have wanted to stay in my JW bubble because I'm older...no way. My nephew helped wake me up, he didn't think I'll leave her alone, she's getting on a bit! No, he didn't think I was too old to know.

  For me, I still believe in God and I certainly don't want to worship him via a channel I now know to be lies. I want to do it with spirit and truth.

  Please don't think older people don't need to be woken up.

  As agonizingly painful as it is, the red pill every time. No one wants to be lied to.
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  An unusual question

  by no-zombie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have an unusual question.. and it is ... who actually owns and runs this site?.

  with no ads ... how does it keep going?.

  no-zombie.

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  Phoebe

  pale.emperor I've got a pint of beer on my right side...it's making me thirsty!

  It's an ad for website design using Red Lion pubs as an example. Who knew there were 650 Red Lion pubs in the U.K. ??
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  Jehovahs witnesses that believe its "The Truth" vs JW's who know it isn't

  by Christian Gutierrez in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey guys!

  what do you think is the percentage of jw's believe that it is the truth and the percentage of those who think it might be some false or all false??

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  Phoebe

  I never doubted it...not for a minute. Until this year.

  I now realise I've learnt more about the religion this year than I ever knew before. I was one of those than went blindly along with everything. I had total trust in the GB that they were doing the research for us and we could rely on them 100%

  In hindsight, it was lazy. I couldn't be bothered to check for myself, but then why should I?

  I think most people I know believe what the GB tell them. A few may have niggling doubts but have a 'well, I don't really believe that but I'll go along with it for now' attitude.

  One thing I do know, is a lot of JWs today seem to have very little bible knowledge. When my husband was talking to the COBE the other day, he said he was shocked at how little the COBE knew. They are so busy getting in the hours, I don't think they study deeply. I didn't. I just studied WT material and accepted it as fact.
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  Do they take the GB seriously?

  by Tech49 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so this is an honest question that i have been thinking about for some time.. do regular jehovahś witnesses in other countries (other than the usa) take the governing body in new york seriously?.

  i mean, i cant help but wonder about the publishers in japan, or south africa, or mexico, or new zealand, or even the uk, or spain, or italy...... or russia?.

  not you and i (we know what you think of them), but the regular jwś...... do they take these american buffoons seriously?

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  Phoebe

  All the people I knew venerated them.

  One sister told me how much the GB had sacrificed for us, she said they probably live in little cell like rooms in Warwick with just the bare necessities....she truly believes this, by the way.

  Another sister who was afraid of flying said: 'The GB fly all over the world and if they can do it, I will also be brave and do it, too.'

  They would talk of the GB in the same way you'd expect them to talk of Jesus,
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  So today this happened...

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you all pretty much know my story so i won't repeat it but.... to say i'm being hounded by my local congregation is an understatement.

  today the cobe finally found us in.

  well, i refused to answer the door but my husband did.

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  Phoebe

  Thank you, everyone. All advice has been taken and is so very welcome.

  Husband has been mostly good so far, biting his tongue so to speak, but he's been away for many years and tends to be somewhat emotional (it's his nationality!!) when confronted by witnesses.

  I will do what you have all told me.

  Thank you :)
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  So today this happened...

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you all pretty much know my story so i won't repeat it but.... to say i'm being hounded by my local congregation is an understatement.

  today the cobe finally found us in.

  well, i refused to answer the door but my husband did.

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  Phoebe

  You all pretty much know my story so I won't repeat it but...

  to say I'm being hounded by my local congregation is an understatement. Today the COBE finally found us in. Well, I refused to answer the door but my husband did. I've been pretty much sticking to my story of: 'Thank you for your concern but please leave me alone, I have post traumatic stress and anxiety to deal with, I can't discuss anything with you right now.'

  But, today, my husband decided to tell the COBE a thing or two so he spoke to him about the ARC, Jeffrey Jackson, Candice Conti and so on. To which he got told he shouldn't believe all he reads, the internet is full of lies, the cobe had never heard of any of it and basically it was all apostate lies and none of this abuse ever happened. My husband said the cobe wouldn't believe any of it, then the cobe said the organization were super hot on child abuse now, there was so much being done to protect kids at conventions etc.

  And then the cobe told him going to the meetings was a command from Jehovah and I should be going because I am now disobeying God blah blah. On and on he went. So that's the second time I've now been told I'm disobeying Jehovah in the past week or so.

  Honestly, what do I have to do to make them leave me alone? I live in a tiny town and I'm already negotiating my way around it like a ninja!

  I'm thinking ghillie suit...what do you think?
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  An honest question for those who were "born-in"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just wanted to ask a question of those who were born in as i was.. how did you feel to have been "privileged to have been born into the only true faith - the truth"?.

  did this make you feel confident, or proud - or perhaps arrogant?.

  how did you reconcile the fact that 99% of the earth's population was not born "into the truth"?.

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  Phoebe

  I felt as if I didn't serve it. How could I be this lucky? To be born into the right religion. But it made me feel guilty because I knew I was in it by default. Never would I have had the courage to change religions like my mum did. I just wouldn't have done it. That made me feel bad. On elder explained that me being in the truth was my mum being blessed.

  I was proud because I was 100% confident it was the truth. No doubt at all.

  I accepted everyone else was going to die because being born in, I was numb to the people in the world around me. The phrase' the wicked will be destroyed' was banded around so much, as a child I just clumped the people in the world all together and assumed everyone must bad.

  I was also an abused child, so no, I didn't question anything. I once dared to ask about evolution and my mother went completely berserk at me. So I learned to shut up and do as I was told.

  I was 100% a JW robot until this year.