Posts by Phoebe

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Pillowgate - John Cedars

by CitizenofEarth in

is this true?

is this really true?!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.

Phoebe

All I'm saying is...my parents would be turning over in their graves if they saw this.

I am beyond shocked. These talks are totally unnecessary and to be honest, those guys appears to be a pair of perverts. If I had a son in bethel and knew about these talks, he'd be out of there. They have no right to interfere in people's personal lives anyway but to go this far is outrageous.

But, haven't the WT always been obsesses with sex?? I remember in the 60s an Awake coming out about sex and how it's done (in great detail) and as a teenager I was absolutely horrified that I was expected to take that magazine out in the ministry.

What else is next, one wonders?

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I've Disassociated. It's getting announced tomorrow.

by Heathen Dan in

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this is my first post to this site, im pale.emperor's brother:).

first of all, i've left being a jw in june.

since then my family have tried to convince me it's "the truth" and force me to go back even though it's my own decision.

Phoebe

Hello Dan,

Welcome! There are some wonderful people on here who will help and support you and I know your brother cares for you very, very much. I'm not that far from you (N.Wales)

I can't believe they've talked of suing you, imagine that in court?? The courts wouldn't take too kindly to them, would they?

You've done a very brave thing and I know you are going to be just fine and remember, you are never alone. You have your brother and all of us on here.

Take care of yourself.

xx

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Captives of a Concept Anatomy of an Illusion'

by Charles Gillette in

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understanding the illusionary concept that holds jehovah's witnesses captive.

"there is only one thing that needs to be known about the watchtower society and there is only one way to know it.

" don camerson.

Phoebe

We've read it, I think it's a brilliant book.

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After 10 years do they give up on you (hoping so)

by Spiral in

i think i read somewhere that if you have been inactive for ten years plus, the elders will not try to meet with you and corner you to get you back "in".

is that true?.

i just realized that mr. spiral and i haven't gone to meetings or reported time for over ten years.

Phoebe

It depends on your local elders. For example, in my town we have a young ex brother - faded - lives with his girlfriend, has a baby, smokes, celebrates Xmas etc. They don't bother him or pursue him because he also happens to be the son of one of the most prominent families in my congregation.

Apparently, he is not now 'seen as a JW' so they leave him alone.

The WT say often enough they 'don't hunt people down to DF them'

However, there is also a sister in my congregation who has been DF for smoking. She hasn't attended meetings in years and years no one locally would view her as a JW. Yet, they saw her smoking and DF her.

As Fall Guys says elders will decide if/when to 'attack' you. Always be prepared.

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UK congregations transferred more than £4 million during 2015-17 to Watchtower HQ

by truthseeker in

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*** due to formatting issues when posting, i will be posting stats as a separate replies to this thread ***.

stats as of january 13, 2018. .

england and wales: 1,325 congregations.

Phoebe

This makes for interesting reading...thank you.

By the way, I just checked the link to my brother's congregation, I see he's still alive.

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Cart Witnesses vs Faith Healing Church

by pale.emperor in

today in liverpool the cart witnesses were in their usual speck in bold street holding out their wafer thin rags and books that they literally can't even give away.

but today the city centre was flooded with some sort of black church handing out their leaflets and little invitations to a "special event" this sunday.

i took a leaflet off them as they handed it to me and they were very smiley and cheerful.

Phoebe

Absolutely true eyeuse2badub

I was guilty of the same but I thought I knew what I was talking about and loved it when people wanted to talk. Now I realize I was just spouting what WT wanted me to say. I now have to reexamine everything as I only left last May so my brain is still in WT mode somewhat.

Now I keep having flashbacks of conversations of people saying things like: WT cherry picked scriptures to suit them or you can get the bible to say anything. There was me staunchly defending WT! Now those old conversations are starting to make sense.

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Cart Witnesses vs Faith Healing Church

by pale.emperor in

today in liverpool the cart witnesses were in their usual speck in bold street holding out their wafer thin rags and books that they literally can't even give away.

but today the city centre was flooded with some sort of black church handing out their leaflets and little invitations to a "special event" this sunday.

i took a leaflet off them as they handed it to me and they were very smiley and cheerful.

Phoebe

I don't think JWs today know much about the bible at all, so they can't debate. It's just refer everyone to JW.org.

I also used to love it when someone wanted to actually discuss the scriptures.

Great video on YouTube by the way.

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Older JW: not happy

by Gorbatchov in

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this week i visited my sick father in law.. then an old elder from my far away congregation came in for coffee.

did not see him in 15 years.. nice chat.

had a lot to say, is alone, his sick wife disabled and away from home.. he told me: "living alone is so hard.

Phoebe

Well said, LoisLane

you and I are two of many who didn't just have their lives stolen but suffered at the hands of JWs! I am mid 60s and yes, it is a traumatic shock to find out it's a lie. I don't think I'll ever recover from it.

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Northenden Assembley Hall Of JWs (Manchester, UK) - A Little History

by pale.emperor in

this is the circuit assembly hall i attended since childhood.

if you're a jw and you grew up in liverpool, lancashire or manchester then this is the hall you attended.

when i was little i remember the decor inside being red and cream coloured.

Phoebe

Just mentioned on another post...this was mine, too.

The last assembly I went to was here.

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Manmade rules

by Jrjw in

i was talking to someone a few years ago and he said in his congregation they have a rail of white shirts prepared in the cloakroom for if a speaker doesn't have a white shirt on.

it was a rule in their hall that all brothers in the platform must wear white shirts when going talks and if the speaker won't comply when asked to change into the shirt they provide an elder in the congregation will do the talk instead.

i have never known any other halls do it so it must be a rule the elders have made up without gb input.

Phoebe

pale.emperor

that was my assembly hall. It's beautiful