Lost in the fog
see John Cedars latest video which discusses this. As there are ‘consequences’ if witnesses do not give consent it is coercion. John Cedars spoke to the IOC. You should definitely voice your concerns too.
i know that there's been a lot posted about this already but i wanted to ask if anyone knew if the wts was in breach of the information commissioner's office (uk) directive or am i misunderstanding something.
the ioc give a list of requirements with regards to charities and in part it says .
that consent is not a precondition for the service provided.
Lost in the fog
see John Cedars latest video which discusses this. As there are ‘consequences’ if witnesses do not give consent it is coercion. John Cedars spoke to the IOC. You should definitely voice your concerns too.
i remember an elder questioning a woman who had admitted to giving and receiving oral sex from her unbelieving mate.
he asked her the most intimate questions which clearly flustered her.
interestingly, she “confessed “ to the elders because her conscience bothered her.
Pale and Searril
the books they couldn’t burn because the demons prevented it? I was told the exact same story!
I was also told my brother was studying with a spiritualist and they tried to burn books in the back garden and they wouldn’t burn.
i think many jw's have secret fears in common, but don't often voice them.
it's too bad because then they might wonder why?.
for instance, one day at work while i was talking to one of the witness ladies, (on her belief of some bible proof of the last days) she suddenly lowered her voice.
I was always afraid I'd sin against the holy spirit and there would be no forgiveness! It's crazy to say this but until I stopped going last year - after decades - I was still always worrying about it. Had I done anything to grieve the holy spirit??
When I was a child they told me during the end, witnesses would be thrown in jail and tortured. I was a little girl and I was worrying about whether I'd renounce my faith when they pulled out my finger nails. I was so scared I'd give in and God would kill me for giving in. NO CHILD should be made to worry about such things. It's wicked.
i dont know if it was the same for you, but for me when i was a jw meeting days seemed to have a black cloud hanging over them.
on thursdays i knew i would be going to the meeting that evening.
that i would be getting into my meeting clothes at 6:30pm, leaving the house at 6:55pm and be sat in the kingdom hall from 7:15pm-9pm, then milling around for about half an hour before finally getting home for 10pm.
Pale,
i used to dread the Thursdays meetings...with kids. I'd start getting ready in the morning! Everything revolved around getting to that meeting. Same with Sunday and Saturday morning ministry.
Even when my family stopped going and up until last year, my whole Thursday would be geared to me going to the meeting and Saturday night I'd be getting ready for Sunday. I hated it. Now on Thursday, I check myself and say 'oh wow! I don't have to go anymore!' It's fabulous.
When I was a kid my poor dad would come home from a hard day at work, quickly change, get us all in the van and then we'd have to go and pick up several people for the meeting and after the meeting we were always last to leave. He usually ate his evening meal at about 11 a.m. He was always so stressed.
i remember an elder questioning a woman who had admitted to giving and receiving oral sex from her unbelieving mate.
he asked her the most intimate questions which clearly flustered her.
interestingly, she “confessed “ to the elders because her conscience bothered her.
StephaneLaliberte
That was such a cruel thing for him to say....how utterly heartless.
JWs can be very cold hearted and clinical. We had a sister here who gleefully said that a family who were killed in a car crash died because they should have been at the convention that day. (they had not gone to the convention but taken a day out with the family and sadly were involved in a collision)
They say some pretty stupid, and often nasty, things, don't they?
i remember an elder questioning a woman who had admitted to giving and receiving oral sex from her unbelieving mate.
he asked her the most intimate questions which clearly flustered her.
interestingly, she “confessed “ to the elders because her conscience bothered her.
I love this thread! It's so entertaining. I've thought of a couple more.
A sister believed you would be resurrected doing exactly the same thing that you died doing. 'So, if you die sword fighting,' she explained. 'You will be resurrected doing just that.' I was a kid at the time and I remember thinking what if you die at sea?
An elder advising a sister who had a daughter in school studying English literature. 'You must not allow her to study Shakespeare, especially Romeo and Juliet. It's immoral.'
i remember an elder questioning a woman who had admitted to giving and receiving oral sex from her unbelieving mate.
he asked her the most intimate questions which clearly flustered her.
interestingly, she “confessed “ to the elders because her conscience bothered her.
A relative, when driving past Stone Henge said 'well that will be knocked over next year' (referring to Armageddon)....that was over 30 years ago!
'I'm going to the Chelsea Flower show, I want to see it before Armageddon' said a sister in my congregation 28 years sgo.
I could go on, there's been so many!
https://youtu.be/vdtwrqvgcv0.
I love these videos, they really cheer me up and are always spot on.
hey guys!
i just want you guys to know that today is a really great day.
there are so many jehovah's witnesses that saw this documentary and were disgusted by watchtowers policy.
Hi Christian and Katja,
You were both so brave. We wànted to reach into the screen and hug you. It was a brilliant programme, so well done. We watched it online here in the UK and I then sent it to a sister I know (she's very strong in the truth) and she watched it too.
so, as some of you will know myself and my husband are in the process of fading.
haven't been to a meeting since beginning of 2017. .
we weren't planning on going to the memorial, but last week my mother broke down and said that we have to go to the memorial even if it's the only meeting i go to this year.
Hi Emily,
When my husband faded, he came to the memorial for a couple of years and then he stopped. I was devastated. I'd been brought up to believe that even those that had left the truth came to the memorial, it was a thread that kept them connected to the organization that said that deep down they still believed. But if they didn't go? Well, they were well and truly lost.
So the first one he missed - I was so upset. But I got used to it after awhile when I realized that him just attending the memorial wasn't ever going to bring him back.
Now, this week it will be my turn to miss it. The first one I've missed in 64 years!!!!!!!!!!!
If you go, your mum will be happy because it will give her a little hope. Go with your heart. Personally, I would go to another hall. You mum will still be pleased and it will stop anyone bothering you. Just literally go in and out.